Many thanks for all your help I will look into how I do that now. I am very grateful to you. I take it that it's not possible to play across platforms ? I will however add you to names list on my play station 4 { I take it that's what I do, lol }. I am though very, very grateful for all you have taught me already about this stuff. I hope we can meet up someway across platforms in destiny. It was all the stuff I saw on you tube that made me buy the Play station 4. I only brought that console on people's advice as I knew absolutely nothing lol, I told you I completely new to all this see. Thanks for being so nice and very patient with my ignorance. Warmest regards.