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Edited by Capt Explodabob:
8/26/2014 6:13:26 AM
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So I just learnt that in addition to Bungie restricting three full sets of armour, two weapons, three vehicles, an entire multiplayer map and an entire -blam!-ing mission (in which Destiny is in desperate need of) to a single platform, they are also locking away exclusive content in the DLC as well... this is just ridiculous and unacceptable! So, let me get this straight, if you're not playing on Playstation, not only will you not get the entirety of the game after paying full price, you won't even get the entirety of the DLC after paying full price for it either? Any chance of me purchasing Destiny has quickly evaporated.
The more I learn about Destiny, the less I care about it, and the more I learn to despise Bungie. Every single Weekly Update--including this one--is filled with damage control and/ or Deej--or Urk--trying to spin some bullshit on the 7C due to lack of features in Destiny, or to circumvent disappointment. Bungie is now very insidious, which is a far cry from what I would have said about them during the Halo era. I mean, come on, I know that you guys are gonna give me hate (again), but do you honestly not see how bullshit some of this stuff is? Hell, I'm even talking to Playstation fans, while you guys aren't being negatively affected by this as much as Xbox fans are, can you not see that some of the promises are quickly starting to form into blatant lies?
Some of you are going to pass this off as trolling because of how vocal I am about my disappointment, but I really am finding it hard to believe that I am the only one who can see this...
To everyone who is calling me an Xbot, bashing the Xbox One, telling me that I don't like Destiny because I suck at it, or are just hurling tactless insults, congratulations in being a shining example of what I have to look forward to if I ever do decide to play Destiny. The 7C is now a festering cesspit. The original members who operate under the bounds of logic and reason are in the decline or are just overshadowed by the incredible number of idiots; for every reasonable comment--in which I respect greatly--there are two moronic ones.
If you're reading this and are one of the members of the community who had a reasonable discussion with me, I thank you. You give me hope that the 7C and gaming as a whole aren't doomed.
Edit: I will not be replying from here on out. My endeavour to voice my concerns and outrage was successful from the moment that I clicked 'post'. I have no intentions of arguing with anyone in the comments section below.
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I understand your concerns, and on some points it may just come down to particularities in tastes, but your arguments about levels i disagree with. First of all, the in my mind most obvious one. You can argue that more multiplayer levels will make the multiplayer experience better, and it probably would. However, this is not a given. Bungie has a pedigree for delivering a set of multiplayer levels that has gone through countless test phases and design works. Their levels have, generally speaking, been small world pieces that takes a long time to "master". Of my 50 matches in the Destiny Beta, playing only two different levels, i kept finding surprices and nuances that I didn't expect in almost every match. Again, that's personal taste, but if Destiny comes with 8 multiplayer levels, that gives me a chance to get more or less familiar with all of them. Being the kind of multiplayer gamer that I am, i would prefer 8 levels that someone put their heart and sweat into rather than 20 levels that were slapped together in a week each. I see the lack of a level (I'm getting it on Xbox One) as a thing to think about, but not something I'll lose any sleep over. Activision is one of the biggest publishers in the world. The dream is that business won't affect creativity, but the reality is that it does. If Bungie/Activision could make the game for free, then they would. But they can't. Activision has several deals with Microsoft on their big franchises. Sony, with the most selling current generation console, is absolutely a great business partner for them. Sony pays extra for their customers getting a bit of extra content, as an incentive from Sony. Activision on the other hand, gets to be fronted by Sony, raising awareness and hype on the most selling current-gen platform. It's good business sense. I can agree that in a perfect world, everyone would get everything, but I still consider it "additional extras" that I won't miss, given what's already there. That particular concern is something I understand, but don't share. The second point about levels is level cap. I am someone who absolutely loves what Bungie is doing, AND don't find it restrictive. A huge problem I have with traditional MMO's is the level difference. A player with level 50 is usually bored by one-shotting everything in range in the "newbie" areas, while a level 5 player would usually die instantly by entering a level 50 area. This creates a massive disparity, even between friends who play the same game, but one player has more time to play than another. To be forced to not play if you want to play together is a huge problem. Some MMO's solve this by making you weaker in certain zones, but this can be weird as well. The game world "nerfs" you, so as long as you play with players of a lower lever, you can't show off your "true" potential. Expressing skill is also an important piece of how I personally enjoy my games. Gaining an additional level fires off endorphins, for sure, but you get the same feeling when you progress your skills (in my opinion), of which there are more than 60 for every character in Destiny. The difference is that in Destiny, the different skills broadens your options instead of just adding more numbers to whatever attribute they are fixed to. Running around in the first story mission as a level 8, with a friend who was just starting out, gave me the opportunity to really show off. I could use my super, show off my skill and build, and felt powerful. At the same time, it still required me to work for my kills, and my friend who was a skilled first person shooter had no problems feeling like he was a part of the team instead of just following me around. The character levels in Destiny are designed around making you stronger as well as being able to play together with ANYONE, regardless of character level. You don't have to wait a week for your friend to catch up. You can play together right now. The fact that pvp and pve are both taken into extreme consideration when making the levelling system in this game is something I appreciate immensely. Just by playing the beta, I can say that it is my prefferred way of doing it, much more so than Wow, guild wars, borderlands etc. It may not be to everyones taste, if you have the need to outperform others, but in my opinion that outperforming bit must come from yourself in Destiny, and not your levels (although they help). Which is awesome :)
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Edited by Rory Mercury IX: 8/25/2014 8:26:18 PMhmmm have any of you played phantasy star online 2? they locked Lv cap at lv 20 1st too and added 5 more lv's every 2-4 mouths i haven't been on it in abit has it's still only JP server's but the way their doing this reminds me of PSO2 game play and Lv'ing wise.
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Did anyone else see ign/moreconsoles videos http://youtu.be/QDr6HU-2cgElink I think what it means is that the level cap on having to have a level for gear is 20 but after u get to 20 you can still level up but it doesn't matter cause u can use any guns after 20 but it still shows your level as like 29 or whatever it is but it doesn't matter for guns/armour
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Yeah, man, it's what is essentially in that EU Gamer link that I posted.
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Edited by Rory Mercury IX: 8/25/2014 7:53:10 PMstocking never felt soo good. :3 p.s ill stop if you want just got nothing better to do......
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No, don't stop. You're making this a bit more bearable
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Edited by Rory Mercury IX: 8/25/2014 6:15:58 PMyou've made a lot of good point in your post's, maybe I'm just desensitize but what bungie is doing is what every Corp, is doing now. so i cant blame them for a trend that's been happening for a long time. and halo 4 did not have the game play i like, destiny did. CoD what a marker of the gaming worlds shift. P.S i hated CoD with a passion.
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Pretty much and that's how I feel about cod getting DLC a month early
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Exactly....cod has been doing this nonsense for 4-5 years now. I'm kind of happy seeing that game start to decline.
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I'm a little glad to see other consoles getting some special attention, I'm an Xbox guy myself but Microsoft getting the cod maps before Sony only set us up for things like the exclusives that PlayStation gets that Xbox doesn't, it sucks but we'll all have the option of getting the extras if we want later on I only really care about the strikes to be honest but it's still gonna be a good game and I know I'm gonna enjoy it
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Agree...Destiny is going to be a game changer and they will be supporting it over a 10 year span. I'm not a fan of the exclusive stuff...I understand why they do it, but I'd like to go back to developers making a game and releasing it to the masses without any conditions
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Edited by darkchronicle13: 8/25/2014 7:14:02 PMHear hear lol I miss those days too, alas so is the plight of a gamer, either way I'm gonna enjoy it and I can't wait to set foot in the vault of glass
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I agree
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I don't get to play halo on ps4. Counter argument.
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No, but you get to play Uncharted. I never understand this logic. So what you're saying is that every game on the Playstation is inferior to Halo? Because I know for a fact that there are quite a few solid titles on Playstation, like God of War, the aforementioned Uncharted series, InFamous and so on. The argument of, "You got something good so we deserve something good", doesn't hold water when you already have something good.
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Edited by Gamma: 8/25/2014 6:18:01 PMTrue. I guess it's a matter of opinion, I dislike most the games you listed. I guess your are correct, but I am sure overtime xbox will an equal amount of content, just not at this very moment.
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No, but you get to play Uncharted. I never understand this logic. So what you're saying is that every game on the Playstation is inferior to Halo? Because I know for a fact that there are quite a few solid titles on Playstation, like God of War, the aforementioned Uncharted series, InFamous and so on. The argument of, "You got something good so we deserve something good", doesn't hold water when you already have something good.
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Not to mention the order: 1886, it looks like it's gonna be good
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Im sure you bigged it up over halo when xbox was console of choice.... sony won the bids DEAL WITH IT. See you on the 9th lol
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Edited by Capt Explodabob: 8/25/2014 6:29:56 PMLike I said to the other guy, if I was to abide by that logic, it would still seem unfair that Bungie are favouring Playstation -- let me explain. Just like ND, Guerilla, Sucker Punch and Sony Santimonica are developers exclusive to Sony, so, too, were Bungie. If your point is that Xbox has something good in Halo, then my point is that Playstation also has something good in Uncharted. I don't see how you can justify an argument with an invalid statement. Both sides have games leading in their respective genres, but only Playstation is getting the content that has essentially been taken out of the Xbox version even though we are still paying full-price for the game. What makes it even worse is that--while yes, Bungie did start on MAC--it was the Xbox--more specifically, Halo fans--who launched Bungie into the huge triple A company that they are today... and now we are second rate.
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Then i will say it more clearer.... sony won the bids this is buissness deal with it.
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Edited by Capt Explodabob: 8/25/2014 7:26:13 PMDon't you worry, my friend, I intend to deal with it. I'm dealing with it right now by venting my frustration right here, and I'll be dealing with it come the ninth with my wallet in hand, walking into EB games, straight through the front door, out the back to go into the Subway shop next door -- it should be about twelve and I get hungry after not eating for about five hours. I sure as hell don't intend to support the swindling of long-time, loyal 7C members.
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Have u missed your meds today?
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Edited by Capt Explodabob: 8/25/2014 7:51:56 PMIt was a joke, but I can see that it was lost on you. Instead of me explaining it, just read the final part of the post and just pretend that the rest isn't there. I may even redact it for you. Or I may just put, in big words, "THIS IS NOT FOR Sav1 TO READ!", around the outside of the joke so as to not confuse you.
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Haha i know and my joke was lost on you... ffs chillout go get laid or smoke a spliff ya stress head i bet your hairline is receading...
