Yeah I grew up in North Carolina and did some framing as a teenager. Well I grew up on a farm but no live animals. As a teen I farmed cattle and pigs. And the farmer I worked with had an unbelievable amount of space for the animals to roam and the care I saw him give was amazing. I remember the first time I tagged the cows I thought, "oh no, this is going to hurt," but they didn't move like the felt it, (basically an earring tag) and it helps to emit stuff for mosquito protection. But he literally loved all his animals. Not a big farm, maybe just a hundred cattle. But the property seemed endless and he took his stuff to the farmers market. Just to me a totally different lifestyle than big farming.