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9/24/2014 6:30:26 AM
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Being Vegan won't stop world hunger, America alone produces enough for 11 billion, it's all greed
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Edited by Pendulate: 10/7/2014 2:28:30 AMI should probably provide some perspective on this. America doesn't bother outsourcing their food surpluses because there's no economic or corporate incentive. Third world distribution networks are notoriously unreliable and corrupt governments make it not worth the investment when most of the US agriculture is already sold to the animal industries. However, if everyone were to become vegan, outsourcing these surpluses would become necessary to close the profit margin. Investing in reliable distribution and a mutually beneficial coalition would become a very serious concern, and with any luck (hiccups notwithstanding) there would eventually be a thriving intercontinental market and we'd be well on our way to ending a large chunk of world hunger. Obviously rather idealistic, but it provides a solution for both the political interests you mention and the interest of the well-intentioned vegans.
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Being vegan will give us much much more farming grounds, so also much much more food. Which may solve world hunger. But also, as we learned in history class, the more food there is, the more money there is, the more time we have to spend on other stuff, everything will develop, also the way we help the poor people and the way they live. In the whole history of mankind, food let us develop, because the climate changed during Medieval Ages we didn't have food and we didn't have development, that's why they call it the dark ages.
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We need more farming ground? Have you been to any rural part of the US? There is thousands of unused square miles of land. Also, have you even heard of hydroponics? We don't need land or even dirt to grow plants anymore.
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When there's free land, why don't you just take it, sell it and become rich?
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You ignorance literally makes my face hurt. I'd rather argue with Pendulate. The land is GOVERNMENT OWNED. If you've got a problem with that take it up with the BLM. Just because your "vegan" now doesn't mean you know anything about it. Do your research kid.
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Maybe that's why it's unused? (Pendulate says veganism solves world hunger too)
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Oh, so you agree we have plenty of land to use and that being vegan because we need more farmland is ridiculous. I guess we just need farmers, are you going to go till those crops?
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We would need less crops than now, because we wouldn't have to feed livestock, so the lack-of-farmers-issue (if there is one) would be solved too
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...... Your argument was that we NEED more farming ground. Which we obviously DO NOT need. If you want to solve world hunger why don't all of you vegans use the UNUSED land and grow food for all of those starving people! Just being a vegan does NOT solve world hunger.
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It was called the dark ages because we don't know much about it, you dense idiot.
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In response to your dark ages BS http://www.cracked.com/article_20615_5-ridiculous-myths-you-probably-believe-about-dark-ages.html
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Still, before and after the medieval ages, there was much more progress
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Still, has nothing to do with your original point, I wasn't arguing the progress
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When there's progress, there's also progress in poor countries and in helping them. When they aren't poor anymore, they don't have hunger anymore.
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Still has nothing to do with vegans
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As I told you, vegans waste alot less farming ground and water than others do (watch gif)
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Not everything is about food, that's not why the dark ages happened, and you seem to have forgotten what I said completely, there's already plenty.
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Not for everyone
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11 -blam!-ing billion, besides, in 3rd world countries the biggest problem is usually clean WATER not food, water is far more important than food, and crops take up more of that than animals
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Animals take up far more land. Objectively a vegan world would be better fed, just unrealistic. If we could reduce our meat intake to just one meat meal a week you get much of the benefits of tasty bacon without killing the world. The poor little porkers will still have to be slaughtered though.
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What do you think the animals eat? Did you see the gif?
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But we'll be back at the same place if we just start giving that same water to plants.
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The water IS allready given to plants, but the plants are fed to animals, we need much more plants when we feed them to animals, then eat the animal, than when we would eat plants directly.
