Fist of havoc trumps anyone elses super including a defenders and shoulder charge -blam!-s in rumble where people cant pay as much attention to radar. Before they know it your gonna home in and one hit them. Im hot and cold as hell in pvp but you can do some serious damage as a titan. I find i do my worst when the other players are all up each others butts. Stick with your pals that love pvp and you'll get more into it Winning is more fun