So, information about cut content have been leaked and users on Neogaf have posted this.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=903125
Apperently a persons game glitched and allowed him to see all the content as locked, including the content we're not "allowed" to see yet. Like the DLC missions, Strikes and Raids.
I quote:
[quote]The first DLC will include 4-5 missions, 2 strikes(one on earth, one on Mars), 1 raid(on Moon) and 3 crucible maps.
Second DLC there is less details but I assume again 4-5 missions, 2 strikes, and 1 raid(which takes place in the reef)[/quote]
Where all of this is on disc but have to be unlocked by buying the Season Pass/DLC.
So, there you have your proof. Bungie have cut content from the game and locked it for us to make us buy their Season Pass.
In my opinion that is a very cheap move.
Opinions/Further discussions?
Please bump this thread as much as you can to spread the truth.
Edit:
Further proof that most of the DLC is already on Disc. (From Neogaf)
[quote]Originally Posted by HykCraft
Sorry if this was already posted... but here you go:
Expansion II is only 9.5 MB
https://store.xbox.com/en-us/Xbox-One/Dlc/Destiny-Expansion-II-House-of-Wolves/2af987e3-ba25-4d1b-82cb-1fbe02e2ea07[/quote]
Link is working again
Picture of it if it would go down again:
http://i.imgur.com/mOMpeif.png
Edit2:
KICHZY posted a interesting video:
[quote]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PBunIaaPsM[/quote]
Edit3:
To the people defending this.
How are you okay with this kind of stuff? Content being on the disc that you [b]bought[/b] but can't use because they will sell it to you [i]again[/i] in the Expansion Pass.
This content should/already is in the game but is locked.
Edit4:
People saying we're jumping to conclusions, that these areas are not even close to being finished and all that.
Thing is.
Since the areas are already there(some with enemies) they could have easily have included them in the game.
These areas were already in as far back as the alpha. Which means they had plenty of time to actually finish it all. (If they aren't already finished and Bungie are just waiting to release the rest of it to the people with the expansion pass)
These missions and areas should/could have been in the final game but were most likely cut to be sold later as DLC.
The areas already in the game proves this by showing us areas that are locked where they probably later only will unlock the missions for those areas. As stated in Edit1 "Expansion II is only 9.5 MB" which most likely is just a "key" to unlock the on disc "DLC".
Looking at the lack of content Destiny have right now it could have used this content on release instead.
Edit5:
Seeing that this thread now have about 380 replies(and still going) where the majority are either upset or angry at Bungie for doing this thing, maybe Bungie should address this in an official blog post and update us on how it actually is.
Is this DLC content on disc which needs a bought "key" aka expansion pass or will this later be released for free like the Iron banner and Queen's Wrath events?
Bungie, take a look at your fanbase/community, more than half of them are disappointed in the way you're doing business with Destiny.
Edit6:
A reddit post going over everything that changed with Destiny over the last year:
http://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/2hqmkb/how_destinys_content_completely_changed_over_the
Same post but on Bungie.net:
http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/70822032/0/0
It goes through everything that was in the game before release but later on got taken out for DLC or removed completely.
Edit7:
The Xbox Expansion Pass link is up again:
https://store.xbox.com/en-us/Xbox-One/Dlc/Destiny-Expansion-II-House-of-Wolves/2af987e3-ba25-4d1b-82cb-1fbe02e2ea07
9.5MB
I have a picture too:
http://i.imgur.com/mOMpeif.png
Edit8:
lavaman2302 posted a link to the ps store showing us the same explansion.
[quote]Also check this out https://store.sonyentertainmentnetwork.com/#!/en-us/games/addons/destiny-expansion-i-the-dark-below/cid=UP0002-BLUS31181_00-DESTINYEXPNPACK1?emcid=ps-ga-872&utm_medium=Paid_Search_{ps}&utm_campaign=Games&utm_source=Google&utm_term=ps-ga-872&utm_content=Brand[/quote]
Pictures of it:
http://i.imgur.com/OrfdFdA.png
http://i.imgur.com/MmbxruY.png
It says 6.9 MB on there. Also a very small download. Most likely a "key".
They promise us "New Story and Cooperative Areas to explore" but we all know those areas aren't actually new lol
Plenty of people have already been in them.
Edit9:
Quote from Neogaf worth reading:
[quote][quote]I highly doubt the devs just cut complete shit out to sell later.[/quote]
And that's probably what they want you to think. You'd be surprised what kind of crap they'd spin. Cutting content out of a game and then randomly blasting it into the market in pieces as DLC is profitable, so they'll do it. It's easy for them.
We have no evidence to suggest they aren't doing this. I'm much more inclined to say this is exactly what they're doing based on what we're seeing.
Thank god I didn't buy into this game. Pulled out last year when i realised what they were saying and what they were showing just didn't match. The $500m gave me a good laugh though. What a waste.
But hats down to Activision, it all worked perfectly. Expect other companies to follow this trend. The future is bright![/quote]
Edit10:
wazzanut wrote a reply worth reading:
[quote]Its like paying to get into Disneyland and then being told you have to pay extra to ride the best rides. People who dont complain about this place less value in money and self respect. I like the idea of releasing content over time to help keep things fresh but theres hardly a main body to this game, it feels like an empty introduction to an empty world. Its like halo leftovers and its starting to smell funny... Repeating missions over and over should be proof enough to the lack of content, its been a while since i felt a little screwed over by a game.[/quote]
Edit11:
Another area have been found, now by Nowise10: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xtf3NlYhB_U
As you can see it is everything is done in this one as well. All Bungie have to do is release the mission files and that's the DLC for ya.
Note that Nowise10 states that this is the 2015 DLC mission.
I mean, a 2015 DLC that already exist in the game. That is pure cheapness.
Edit12:
So, the area Nowise10 found a way into have been in the game for quite some time.
This is a screenshot from a trailer released on E3 this year in June.
http://i.imgur.com/4zFs3HH.png
Would you look at that?
http://youtu.be/hRRKtkuOeig?t=1m32s
So this area have been in there since atleast E3...
Edit13:
Another finished looking DLC area on disc have been found:
http://teambeyond.net/destiny-dlc-area-uncovered-mars/
http://youtu.be/fY_KKYQG22c
Now a strike in the Black Garden area.
As you can see it is a big area where you can't go because of this big energy wall, but with a sparrow you can go through it and enter the DLC area.
Edit14:
Another DLC area found by Corbman.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgoPfuphQvw
This is the Traitor's Ketch mission in the 2015 DLC.
Is you can see, everything is working as it should, it just needs enemies.
Edit15:
Once again, a new DLC area found by Corbman.
http://youtu.be/BtFey3eEzfk
This is the area for the raid on the moon.
Confirming that this also is on disc and only needs enemies to be added.
I know no one cares anymore so I will probably stop updating this now. Since, I don't really care anymore myself.
I've given up on Destiny and will move on to better games.
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Every deveopler has to cut some content, but this is WITHHELD content.
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I've held a firm position of "quit crying" until seeing this video. As previously stated by another, paying for content already purchased is not only wrong, but sounds alot like EXTORTION. This business practice is completely unethical and probably tapdances on the line of being legal. WTF Bungie!?!
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Thank you, no point in buying the dlc now as there won't even be a new planet.
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Why does everyone keep pointing the finger at Bungie as being behind it. Is it not equally possible that Activision had something to with with possible Disc Locked content? I would honestly point the finger at Activision before Bungie any day of the week. Id like to see people start referring to both companies instead of throwing ONLY Bungie under the bus.
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Wow, I've been defending Bungie but that's some full proof evidence if I've ever seen any. Seems to me there isn't any real gaming companies any more, just turned into big business. Oh well, everything in life truely does revolve around money.
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I knew something wasn't right. After the insane success of Halo, me and my friends were completely shocked by Bungie releasing such and lackluster and mediocre game. I'm sure we can all assume it was Activision's doing.
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Edited by ThaBootyBandit: 9/28/2014 11:48:42 PMwow.... i dont even know what to say... thank you for posting this It was probably activision that made them do it though.
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I gotta say, all things considered, this is -blam!-ed up.
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Anddddd cue the butt hurt in-denial fanboys
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There is no proof that the content is on the disk. Those, like mentioned in an article I read, could be placeholders for Digital Content (digital expansion pass).
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Edited by car15: 9/28/2014 11:33:59 PMWell, how about that? The doomsayers were right after all. Bungie. Come on. This is bullshit. I love the game. I'm not one of these "Destiny sucks" people. I think it's fun and addicting and exhilarating, and I even think there's a good amount of content included at launch, which I know [i]many[/i] people disagree with. But [i]this[/i] is straight-up bullshit. On-disc DLC? You're going to charge us $35 for content we've already bought?! Really?! You [i]know[/i] this is bullshit, Bungie. I can't [i]wait[/i] to see you try to wiggle your way out of this one.
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I just can't believe that they hyped up end game content and how the raid is amazing then they only plan on 3 raids for the game. There should be 3 raids for the game already then more with the expansions. Its a cruel joke.
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Bump chain for justice?
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wow do they have the Grassy Knoll video too? Just because it's online doesn't make it true. And for those talking about "turning this around" your several years too late.. DLC is an entrenched part of the process. There will be placeholders/rudimentary content pre-cached in any online game ready for when the final switch is turned...it's not "real" until they open it up for play. QQ somewhere else and get butt-hurt when you find it's nothing new.
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Hearsay and nay say, peole need to stop assuming just cause the gateways are in place deosnt mean the content was ready at launch.
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Why are people still defending destiny? It's a decent game that had potential and that potential has been gutted by DLC. Hahahaha
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From what I've seen, the "cut content" is quite clearly [i]unfinished[/i] content. If what they're showing in those videos is released as is, even as free DLC, I'd be disappointed with how badly done it is. Most of it is empty, some of it has some enemy spawns. That's all it is.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PBunIaaPsM
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Looks like a lot of content per DLC. I can live with that.
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Honestly I'm to the point now where I'm just like stop making me wait...I'm SOoooo sick of waiting take my damn money and give me all the content
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I hate when they do this crap! The game lacks content already! Thanks for ripping me off!
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It's not proof, it's evidence, but it is not proof. It shows the icons are there, that's it except some aren't even on the map.
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TL;DR No one knows anything about game development.
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I'm not going to read all of the replies, so my apologies if it's already been said, but I'm not sure that any of this is within Bungie's control. I'm not saying that they are completely innocent, but we all know how greedy Activision is, and how they like to conduct business. I assume that Activision made Bungie cut some of the content from the game in order to save it for DLC. If this is true, it's obviously just a ploy to make more money, and also pretty sad.
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Bungie cut content? No, activision cut content!