[quote]You said a wolf cannot comprehend right from wrong? Effectively naming it "immoral" unable to decide whether it kills animals to survive or for fun...[/quote]Are you deliberately distorting my points or do you simply not understand what I'm saying? You can't be immoral if you don't know right from wrong. Wolves kill to survive, obviously. It's instinctual. They are not cognitively developed enough to reflect on their actions in the sense that we can. [quote]Do you think if the wolf lived on the beach lazing in the sun with a cocktail enjoy the view it would turn down a nice juicy stake?[/quote]Probably going to end this discussion soon because arguments like this are just nonsense. Please, read what you just typed. See how absurd, and irrelevant, it is. [quote]I don't need quotes from the internet that were sourced using biased search references.[/quote]The search reference was "common vitamin deficiencies", just so you know. Nothing biased about it. But I encourage you to do your own research instead of sitting here spreading false information. Please. [quote]If I google meat or veggies, there will be more posts about how veggies are better for you, the number 1 reason for that is... Because only vegans open up a complaint about it...[/quote]Except I never said "vegetables are better for you". Not once. Again, you are fabricating arguments to avoid addressing what I'm [i]actually[/i] saying. Stop it. [quote]Everything I say is off the cuff, I have enough experience in my life to make up my own decision on what is right or wrong and yes I am a realist.[/quote]Well, your entire argument fell apart right there. Your evidence against vegan diets being healthy, and killing animals being morally wrong, and the animal industries wasting over half of the world's crops is... "off the cuff"? [i]That's[/i] your response when you are presented with facts and logic? I am baffled how you can so willingly ignore evidence that makes you feel uncomfortable. And with that mindset, I see no point in attempting any further discourse with you. If you actually want to have an open-minded discussion, I'll be here.