I'm patronizing you because instead of doing the respectable thing and admitting your initial arguments were flawed, you weaseled out of the discussion with a childish, insincere, irrelevant remark. Unlike you, I have these interactions because I'm interested in logic, and truth. If I have to abandon my original positions to achieve these, I'm more than willing to do so. You seem more interested in having these discussions to reinforce your views and diminish others. When you realized this was not going to be as easy as you thought, you backed off. Sorry, but after I provided a long, civilized response with numerous sources (that weren't wikipedia) and rational arguments and you act in that manner, I think I am right to be somewhat irritated. If you want to put this little tirade behind us, my post is still there to be addressed respectfully. Otherwise, keep doing what you're doing -- you are only harming yourself. I certainly won't lose any sleep.

[quote]I'm patronizing you because instead of doing the respectable thing and admitting your initial arguments were flawed, you weaseled out of the discussion with a childish, insincere, irrelevant remark. Unlike you, I have these interactions because I'm interested in logic, and truth. If I have to abandon my original positions to achieve these, I'm more than willing to do so. You seem more interested in having these discussions to reinforce your views and diminish others. When you realized this was not going to be as easy as you thought, you backed off. Sorry, but after I provided a long, civilized response with numerous sources (that weren't wikipedia) and rational arguments and you act in that manner, I think I am right to be somewhat irritated. If you want to put this little tirade behind us, my post is still there to be addressed respectfully. Otherwise, keep doing what you're doing -- you are only harming yourself. I certainly won't lose any sleep.[/quote] This is going nowhere, your VIEWS are subjective, you are irritated only because I disagree with your views. Again I feel no need to continue to allow you to try and patronise or condescend to me. Good day to you, I think we will have to agree to disagree, especially on your claim that you applied logic to your argument.