I'm patronizing you because instead of doing the respectable thing and admitting your initial arguments were flawed, you weaseled out of the discussion with a childish, insincere, irrelevant remark. Unlike you, I have these interactions because I'm interested in logic, and truth. If I have to abandon my original positions to achieve these, I'm more than willing to do so. You seem more interested in having these discussions to reinforce your views and diminish others. When you realized this was not going to be as easy as you thought, you backed off. Sorry, but after I provided a long, civilized response with numerous sources (that weren't wikipedia) and rational arguments and you act in that manner, I think I am right to be somewhat irritated. If you want to put this little tirade behind us, my post is still there to be addressed respectfully. Otherwise, keep doing what you're doing -- you are only harming yourself. I certainly won't lose any sleep.