thats fine, i recognize that. i can't play in the crucible, strikes or raids because i don't have xbox live gold, or enough time/confidence in my abilities to play competitively in order to justify it. needless to say, however, you're right, we do have a good foundation. but I just feel like we were promised so much more than what we ended up getting. and apparently someone from Bungie said that hunch is right, that this game really is only a shadow of its former self. Halo 2 was also an unfinished game, and Bungie's greatest game ever. a good mmo is never done. Destiny has the benefits and problems of both genres, and even though we're just getting started, i don't want to complete every mission in the game at lv 20 and 15 or so hours of gameplay. it just doesn't feel right at all.