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Edited by Based Snake: 10/5/2014 4:19:57 PM
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It's simple: I don't eat animals that have felt pain to become food. For example, I eat eggs, because the chicken embryos did not feel pain to become food. But on the other side of the coin, a pig is [i]slaughtered[/i] to become bacon, and has felt pain. So I don't eat them.
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  • Male chicks are killed in the egg industry and the hens are killed when "spent". This is also true for dairy cows.

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  • Edited by Based Snake: 10/5/2014 10:38:43 PM
    How are male chicks killed? Also, I'm not requiring a cow to be killed when I drink a glass a milk. I am when I eat a steak, though. Same applies to eggs.

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  • Edited by Pendulate: 10/5/2014 11:34:11 PM
    http://kb.rspca.org.au/What-happens-with-male-chicks-in-the-egg-industry_100.html [quote]Also, I'm not requiring a cow to be killed when I drink a glass a milk. I am when I eat a steak, though. Same applies to eggs.[/quote]That doesn't really work. For the egg industry to exist, chickens are killed. By eating eggs, you are supporting it to continue. The dairy industry is arguably worse than the meat industry when it comes to animal cruelty: http://www.veganoutreach.org/dairy/ (A considerably better site than PETA, because it actually provides sources for its claims)

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  • How does eating an egg kill a chicken?

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  • Did my link not answer that?

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  • I didn't look at your link. I'm a bit ore-occupied at the moment. Do me a favour and summarize?

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  • Well, males cannot lay eggs and are therefore discarded. Neither of the links are more than a few short paragraphs, and if this is of any concern to you (as it appears to be) you should invest 3 or so minutes into reading them. The one about dairy cows, especially. Then I'd like to get your thoughts.

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  • For the male chicks, I'm okay with that. As long as it's instantaneous. The cows, however... that is absurd. Are there any companies that officially don't do that sort of stuff?

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  • If there are, good luck being able to reliably verify them. They aren't exactly open about their practices. I don't think you can be certain the chicks are killed painlessly just, as you said, you can't be certain for a cow. But that is a decision you'll need to be honest with yourself about.

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  • I certainly have some thinking to do. Thanks for bringing this to my attention.

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  • Edited by Pendulate: 10/6/2014 2:00:09 AM
    I should also add, as it needs to be shouted from every rooftop: coconut milk >>>>> cow milk. Edit: not the gooey stuff in a can. It's on the same shelf as the soy/long life milks.

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  • Lol, I'll give it a shot.

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  • Not the canned stuff or you'll be drinking pure fat. It should be in the long life milk section of the store. Okay, my itch is scratched.

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  • It could be a painless death. Cows get the captive bolt pistol to the brain. No pain there.

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  • It [i]could[/i] be, and if that was the case, I'd eat the animal. But I've no way of verifying that the cow was not in pain prior to death.

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  • True

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