I was under the impression they use substitutes for breast feeding, for that I apologize. Though that being said I don't think I'm going run into a doctor that recommends a vegan diet for a baby over a normal diet if I'm not a vegan.
My point is people need to take responsibility. Wether it was an isolated incident or not, those vegan parents killed their babies by putting them on a vegan diet. I'm not saying there isn't healthy baby vegans, I'm saying there is more of a risk especially if they don't know what they are doing.
As for the morality aspect of veganism, I could care less about cows, chickens and pigs. Doesn't mean I don't think equal consideration is appropriate. I'm going to eat meat, but I'd prefer that it wasn't caged and wallowing in it's own feces.
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Edited by Pendulate: 10/7/2014 12:30:20 AMOf course they're responsible. Keep in mind that a vegan pregnancy isn't necessarily difficult, but there are relatively few dieticians who actually know anything about it. Which is why I linked a world-renowned one who does. If you don't care about the ethical side I'm not going to press you. But you should know that supporting something while at the same time saying "You know, I don't like what they're doing and it should be better...", isn't good enough. It's an insincere attempt to feel comfortable with your actions. But thanks for the discussion.
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[quote]But you should know that supporting something while at the same time saying "You know, I don't like what they're doing and it should be better...", isn't good enough. It's an insincere attempt to feel comfortable with your actions.[/quote] I don't know what this is about but sure. Good talking though.
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You said that you'd prefer if animals weren't caged and wallowing in their feces. I'm just saying it's intellectually insincere to say that yet still go and buy those animal products. Sorry, but I don't like to leave discussions on a misunderstanding.
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Oh, I was referring to animal "equal consideration" not equal rights. There is a difference. Where as equal consideration is the extent of my morality towards animals.
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But you don't think animals should be caged?
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If they don't have to. Doesn't mean I'm going to stop eating them. A lot of big corporate farming has already moved to cage free animals.
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Well, they don't have to. They only are because people give the corporations their money anyway. There's no incentive to change it.