Its all well and good these people throwing their tampons out saying 'u r st00pid bungie said ther doin maintenance' but if bungie had any common sense theyd entirely disable the servers, install any patches, then turn the servers online again only when theyre fully workin and useable. But instead we apparently need to read the news everyday before logging into destiny to tell us if its worth trying or not. Someone please write a book 'how to make an mmo: for dummies' and send then a thousand copies ..