So I logged in yesterday to check out the Iron Banner since Queen's Wrath was a flunk out. I played one game and won. Saw that as a level 29, there was no difference in damage given or received between other level 29's and level 26's. The first shader looks better than the second so I have that now. The only reason to even do the Iron Banner now is for cheap (10 marks) guns and armor to break down into Shards and Energies(which I don't need due to 3 weeks of VoG with no gear and only materials). So I'm going to step into a different direction with forums. Instead of just complaining I'm going to ask the white knights that come to Bungie's defense a queston. I have done VoG Hard mode twice now. I have done pvp to the point that I'm bored(never been too much of a competitive shooter since Halo 3). I have collected every ghost in the game according to 3 different internet guides. I have 7 exotic weapons. I don't want to make a hunter or titan just to replay the same thing. So as a level 29 Warlock, what is there left in the game for me to do besides get on once a week and farm gear to hit 30? Also, when I do get the RNG gods to favor me and I hit 30, why should I get on after that? I could level my exotic guns, but that get's really boring and I can't see anyone else grinding hours and hours just to level guns when you already complete hard mode with what you have. I'm honestly wanting to know what people think the gamers that have completed everything should do? I always take a break after the final patch in every wow expansion since it came out 10 years ago(next month makes 10 years anniversary) and have just re-subbed in preparation for WoD. In the first day, I remembered why I love that game so much. The content is nearly endless. Pet battles, professions, tank-heal-dps specs, collectible toys, collectible mounts, collectible pets, multiple battlegrounds with different objectives, transmog(so people look how they want and not like everyone else), deep story, huge world, MMO atmosphere(not 16 players a server), world pvp, tons and tons of gear, more than 3 stats, multiple starting zones and stories(a reason to make a new character), more raids, more dungeons, loot tables, raising a farm(soon a garrison). There are so many of the above listed things that were out with just Vanilla as well. Blizzard is also owned by Activision, so I know that publishers push for release dates, but I also know that developers have a lot of power as well. It was a 14 month break between the last patch, SoO, and this expansion. This was the longest gap between patch and expansion in WoW history. WoW also lost 1.2 million subs during this time as well, and they did not rush their expansion. I'm going to make an educated guess here, but if Activision did not "force" Blizzard to release an expansion to early, to a game with a player base much much larger than Destiny, I don't believe they are the reason for ALL of Destiny's flaws(my opinion of flaws that is). So I just want to ask why everyone wants to force the "don't like, don't play" option down other's throats when they feel let down spending more money on this game than what it costs for an expansion for a game already out that will have more content. WoD-45$, Destiny-60$ So any actual input? Or am I just going to get the trolls that say gtfo the forums and play something else or sell my game?