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10/8/2014 11:04:59 PM
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I'll be addressing this in the Weekly Update.
Preview: Power Matters, but so does skill.
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Yes, because im sure you know that Bungie is doing something wrong, and its not the vocal minority of the community who -blam!-ed up when they assume something is wrong. Come on dude, this is absolutely ridiculous.
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The blind fan boys lol
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whats the point? when this even gets across to being heard the Iron Banner will almost be over with.... another seemingly fun activity ruined :(
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You're a retard.
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Dude really?
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But he's right.
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Why would you make a boneheaded comment like that? First off he probably is not mentally challenged, second off why would you disrespect people who have a disorder that makes them different? Do you feel good about yourself making fun of someone who will has a mental disability? How would you feel if you or one of your loved ones was mentally disabled? Don't say that stupid petty bullsh*t!
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If I were retarded I would not be offended by someone calling me retarded, you wanna know why? Because I'm RETARDED! People need to stop being offended on behalf of other people.
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Careful Deej, never walk into the forums without first equipping your ban hammer! LOL Nerd rage makes me laugh. Let the hate flow through you....
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There is really nothing you can address or any loopholes you can make up.
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This^^
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By the time this is fixed, the event will be over or nearly over. I say it should be extended for an additional week after the fix.
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How about the Auto Rifle and Shotgun Nerf And the Thorn, Bad Juju, and Scout rifle Buffs you guys promised?
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How about AR and Shotgun nerfs only for PVP? I don't want you tired bitches messing up my PVE gameplay simply because you suck. >_<
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^ this
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Still waiting on the Scout Rifle and Bad Juju buff too.
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So.... what you're saying is that you guys are lazy -blam!-s who tell us one thing but mean another and do not make this as clear as possible before it goes live? If power matters why can Level 19 and lower players damage 21 and higher players? I remember ??? enemies literally destroying me so shouldn't the same thing apply to players at 21 and up for players 19 and lower? This video just shows us that you guys have no idea wtf you're doing at this point. Just one more reason my patience is wearing thin and my hope for this game is dwindling.
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[quote]If power matters why can Level 19 and lower players damage 21 and higher players? I remember ??? enemies literally destroying me so shouldn't the same thing apply to players at 21 and up for players 19 and lower?[/quote] No, it shouldn't. PVP vs PVE. Different mechanics at play.
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The level advantages still apply. That's the entire point of the IB vs regular crucible. a level 1 should see a level 20 for instance as a ??? target. Dealing 0 because of the "power" that our wonderful Dev is talking about.
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Edited by H0RSE: 10/9/2014 8:22:03 AMYou are missing the point.. There has to be some degree of skill coming into effect to offset the lvl differnece, otherwise there would be no point in fighting if players were so far from each other in lvl, since the higher lvl player would always win. If it was just a gear dependent game mode, they would need to have lvl tiers to balance it out, like lvl 1-9, 10-19, etc. How IB is now now, any lvl vs any lvl, skill needs to be the counterweight to balance things out, otherwise how would a lvl 5 ever have a chance against a lvl 25? This is something that doesn't need to factor into pve when players encounter really high lvl enemies.
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A lvl 5 SHOULDNT have a chance against a lvl 25. Thats like a guy with no formal fight training/never had a fight walking into a dojo, kwoon or temple and bitch slapping the sensei, or sifu. As someone who studied martial arts I can tell you that just wont happen the guy off the street would be in for the ride of his life! Iron Banner isnt for players that low and I will say that I dont think it should be for anyone under lvl 20(no light in their armor). This is Billed by the Creators and the Lore as the best of the best of the BEST. When you put in the time, you will have the weapons and the gear that will let you come in and show with your skill you belong there. Low lvls dont belong in the Vault of Glass they dont belong in Iron Banner either. I have said it before and will say it again now. WHEN they fix it to be like it should AND add some kind of playlist so it isnt just control matches, it should be a permanent part of the crucible. a PVP endgame as it were.
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[quote] how would a lvl 5 ever have a chance against a lvl 25?[/quote] oh, wait wait wait, i know the answer: because this is UTTERLY simple: [b]NOT AT ALL.. [/b]
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A level 5 shouldn't be playing Iron Banner then, just as if you were level 5 you are excluded from level 20 strikes, or from going to Mars. Or a more sensible solution is as you said, tier off the levels. If a level 5 can defeat a level 30 with relative ease, how is this different to regular crucible and what of the people who put time into gearing up in anticipation for this event. Honestly, Iron Banner was the only reason I bothered getting to level 29.
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I think you are missing the point. Level advantages are there to show the power of your gear combined with your skill as a player. Now I get that a 27 with decent gear, maybe semi upgraded legendaries and an upgraded exotic for example with semi upgraded weapons can take out a level 30 if they do it right, but a level 5 should have no hope of killing a level 30, unless the 30 just stood there and did nothing. Their armor alone would just shatter to someone with a fully upgraded AR or Scout. Lower levels should be playing in normal crucible because there is the knowledge that level 20+s will be in the IB. a 20 can still kill a 30 if they use the terrain to their advantage or have teammates helping them, hence why it's a team based gametype, but in all honesty a 30 would probably just survive long enough to wipe out the 20 assuming the level 20 is alone and attempting to duke it out with him head on. But that is not how IB is right now. In fact it's just like regular crucible where your armor is doing absolutely nothing for you and your weapons are performing the same as they would in regular crucible modes so that is why many are upset about this. IB may as well not exist and the rewards be moved to the normal loot pool.
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Edited by H0RSE: 10/9/2014 8:30:09 AM[quote]I think you are missing the point.[/quote] No, I'm not missing anything. Every thing you just described I just addressed in my last post, and even gave solutions to scenarios you brought up, like a lvl 5 fighting a lvl 30.
