Do you really want a lvl 4 to do NO damage to a level 20 or above?
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[quote]Do you really want a lvl 4 to do NO damage to a level 20 or above?[/quote] Yes lol... it's IB, no one is forcing that lvl 4 play that event.
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Yes that's the point, if you didn't gear up don't play
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Not completely zero, but... Yeah. Lvl 4 should get eaten alive by any competent 20+... And by competent I mean able to point and fire a weapon.
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[quote]Do you really want a lvl 4 to do NO damage to a level 20 or above?[/quote] In IB.. YES.
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Not to be a dick, but the level 4 shouldn't even be matched with high twenties. This game type is to exploit level and gear advantages. You should only be able to enter at level 20 or higher. Or at least be matched into a level bracket. The way WOW does battlegrounds.
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I agree with the bracket idea, only way to make a true competion of skill.
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Since there isn't a matchmaking for level brackets, you don't think that a level 4 doing literally ZERO damage is a bit harsh?
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I think it is harsh. But I suppose the iron banner is supposed to be harsh. If I grind 6 hours on hard mode raid to get the gear. I shouldn't be taking damage from a level 4 using commons. I'm just saying, it should be to the point that low levels are discouraged from joining. The same way you level up to do better at a raid. So you don't get one shot
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[quote]I think it is harsh. But I suppose the iron banner is supposed to be harsh. If I grind 6 hours on hard mode raid to get the gear. I shouldn't be taking damage from a level 4 using commons. I'm just saying, it should be to the point that low levels are discouraged from joining. The same way you level up to do better at a raid. So you don't get one shot[/quote] Well said. What I saw doesn't make me feel any different. But I agree a lvl 4 should do nothing to 27-30 lvl players.
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YES? why does a level 4 deserve to have a chance in the iron banner?? It should encourage you to level up and come back when you're ready! That's the Point of it.
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Because its a game. Do you want it to be completely uncompetitive so you can faceroll everyone lower level than you? Or would you still want to give everyone some semblance of a chance? I'd go for the latter in all of my MP games.
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[quote]Because its a game. Do you want it to be completely uncompetitive so you can faceroll everyone lower level than you? Or would you still want to give everyone some semblance of a chance? I'd go for the latter in all of my MP games.[/quote] No. IB should be about the best gear, because end-game is about the best gear. Skill, yes. But there should be one type of special event where all your best stuff should count for something. That event should be IB.
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But this is a special event designed to give people an advantage for having better equipment. Regular Crucible should be set up so that no matter what level you are you have a chance. This is something entirely different.
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If you want to play with the big dogs, you have to EARN your stripes. Simple.
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Oh, so should level 1 player on World of Warcraft be able to have a chance to beat a level 90? NO. Different game or not, it's the same concept. This is Iron Banner, not regular Crucible.
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There aren't PvP modes for a lvl 1 to take on a lvl 90. Destiny is different, all levels are in the same queue. There has to be some mechanisms to allow for lower levels to at least be able to compete (not dominate) in modes like IB.
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[quote]There aren't PvP modes for a lvl 1 to take on a lvl 90. Destiny is different, all levels are in the same queue. There has to be some mechanisms to allow for lower levels to at least be able to compete (not dominate) in modes like IB.[/quote] Maybe they shouldnt be allowed in IB. Just as if you're a lvl 20 player it'll tell you to get better gear to complete a lvl 26 mission. I'd say make requirement to enter the tournament be at least lvl 19. What do you think?
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No. That's what regular Crucible is for. That's why they made it EQUAL. Iron Banner is DIFFERENT. Crucible is for the casual players. IB is for the hardcore players. Plain and simple. A level 4 isn't hardcore, sorry.
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lol "hardcore"
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Funny, but true.
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Yeah that would make a lot more sense than a lvl 4 dominating raid - geared players. Yes skill should be a huge factor, but iron banner was supposed to be the place where all the high level players go to throw down in badass gear. If that doesn't matter, it's a normal crucible match