[quote]I think it is harsh. But I suppose the iron banner is supposed to be harsh. If I grind 6 hours on hard mode raid to get the gear. I shouldn't be taking damage from a level 4 using commons. I'm just saying, it should be to the point that low levels are discouraged from joining. The same way you level up to do better at a raid. So you don't get one shot[/quote] Well said. What I saw doesn't make me feel any different. But I agree a lvl 4 should do nothing to 27-30 lvl players.