If my fully upgraded exotic hard light can only do 1-2 extra per shot to a lvl it's meaningless.

Well then you've got a shitty gun for multiplayer because my Exotic pulse rifle just keeps getting better as I upgrade it in Iron Banner. Sorry you're having an unlucky experience. The Hard Light isn't meant for high damage. That's why it has 40 shots. Switch to something with 20-30 shots and you'll notice a much bigger difference.

Show me proof of your gun getting "better" with upgrades. I've tested with multiple guns and my lvl 5 AR does the same as my fully upgraded Suros. A non-upgraded Shadow Price does the same dmg as a fully upgraded shadow price. Two final rests upgraded and not upgraded show the same results.There are multiple videos showing all of these examples while there seems to be a lack of any video showing that upgrades actually matter. If you can prove this then I'll shut up and a whole lot of people will too. But until then.. and I say this with as much respect as possible- You are talking out of your ass.

Well you're talking out of your ass as much as I am. You can say you tested weapons but it doesn't mean you actually did. For all intent and purposes, I believe you. No, I have no actual proof. Only as much as you. I used the first green pulse rifle I could find from the weapons dealer. It did about the same as it would in crucible. 3-4 full bursts on the body to kill an enemy. I switched to the Stranger's Rifle, fully upgraded. 2-3 full bursts or so for a kill. My Red Death, which had no upgrades on it at all when i played my first IB match, took shields down in one burst. The second killed. No other pulse rifle I've used has the power to do that in Crucible. Once I got it to the middle of the upgrade chain, it was bringing people down below their shield and chipping away at their health in one burst. This didn't work on people around my level, only about 15 and under from what I could tell.

the difference is you can easily look up a video of exactly what i tested and find it at the snap of your finger. Can you say the same for what you say is true? Thats the difference between what I say and what you say. There is already existing proof backing up what I've said so I haven't gone out of my way to take a video of it. Its already on the web. Alternatively... There is not even ONE video that supports your claim that upgrades matter. Not one. Show me one even if you don't record it yourself showing that upgrades make it that much better- and in a way that didn't already exist in the regular crucible. In other words... are you even sure its not the perks on your gun that is making it "feel" more powerful? Because there have been many many many people that can attest to the fact that dmg upgrades do pretty much nothing. If I'm talking out of my ass feel free to youtube it. Plenty of supporting vids.

Well the differences are minuscule at best and don't warrant an "event". Bungie definitely advertised this in quite a misleading way.

Different experiences I suppose. I've had a blast in it. I wish it was permanent. I infinitely prefer this to normal Crucible

Don't see how you can. since its pretty much the same thing... Even the stats show up as crucible stats...