Well you're talking out of your ass as much as I am. You can say you tested weapons but it doesn't mean you actually did. For all intent and purposes, I believe you. No, I have no actual proof. Only as much as you. I used the first green pulse rifle I could find from the weapons dealer. It did about the same as it would in crucible. 3-4 full bursts on the body to kill an enemy. I switched to the Stranger's Rifle, fully upgraded. 2-3 full bursts or so for a kill. My Red Death, which had no upgrades on it at all when i played my first IB match, took shields down in one burst. The second killed. No other pulse rifle I've used has the power to do that in Crucible. Once I got it to the middle of the upgrade chain, it was bringing people down below their shield and chipping away at their health in one burst. This didn't work on people around my level, only about 15 and under from what I could tell.

the difference is you can easily look up a video of exactly what i tested and find it at the snap of your finger. Can you say the same for what you say is true? Thats the difference between what I say and what you say. There is already existing proof backing up what I've said so I haven't gone out of my way to take a video of it. Its already on the web. Alternatively... There is not even ONE video that supports your claim that upgrades matter. Not one. Show me one even if you don't record it yourself showing that upgrades make it that much better- and in a way that didn't already exist in the regular crucible. In other words... are you even sure its not the perks on your gun that is making it "feel" more powerful? Because there have been many many many people that can attest to the fact that dmg upgrades do pretty much nothing. If I'm talking out of my ass feel free to youtube it. Plenty of supporting vids.