[quote]Yapp, Autorifle here, Queens blue item - does 32 per hit be it 20, 27 or 3. btw. I am bad at pvp just doing it because of the bountys and to earn Reputation with iron banner thats why I used a blue autorifle.[/quote] See this makes no sense lol. Bungie needs to realize this. The only way they can actually differ Crucible from Iron Banner is by disabling all armor and weapon passives in the Crucible making it a fair playing ground for everyone who wants to play. (Even casual players) But instead we are seeing a huge drop in players during games because once a team starts losing they will quit out knowing there is ZERO reward for staying since your IB rep only goes up for winning. Not to mention not getting any credits I believe. And yes, I've been on the receiving end of a butt whooping when not playing with a full group watching my teammates just quit out making it 3v6, 2v6 and even a dreaded 1v6. It's insane.