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Edited by lIMaclI: 10/9/2014 9:03:47 AM
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... you completely missed the point. You should not be getting one shot killed in VoG unless you have sub par gear and a lower light level. You dont even attempt VoG if you aren't properly armed regardless of your skill level. The point I was trying to make is that IB was a pvp equivalent of vault. You need both skills and gear to do well, but in the version we have gear doesn't really seem to do jack. Low levels rightfully should be getting dropped much faster and doing much less damage because they lack the gear part of the equation. Consequently, players who have really good gear but lack skill will also be getting dropped just as fast by players who have both good gear and skill. If you wanna make an argument at least understand what someone is trying to say beforehand... Starting with "TLDR" and then going off on something not really related gets us nowhere
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  • i agree that TLDR isn't ok, but one thing i tryed to point out is that VOG or high level strikes have highskilled enemies whith good aim in it! pvp with high level enemies does not necessarily mean they are also that good! i guess if you would have a statistic you are going to have a result of more than 90% of low leves getting totally wrecked in IB while the remaining 10% are just good players or going into IB with full fireteams

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  • That's a point but it has no real bearing to what I'm trying to say nor the "real" problem ppl have with Iron Banner. Yes "No matter what, skill always has its place" But gear should have its place as well. Honestly, if you read my post, you should understand that low levels should be totally getting wrecked if they enter into IB. They have no place there. They deserve to get wrecked for going in unprepared. I'm not saying they should not be able to kill a higher lvl player at all, but they should be at a dramatic disavantage. Do you see people going into Vault of Glass with bad gear and low light levels and beating it right away? No Should people be going into Iron Banner and finding alot of success with sub par gear? No. Even if they are a really skilled player, they should still be facing some sort of disadvantage for going in unprepared. That is what Iron Banner is all about. Gear, level advantages, upgrades etc etc etc. Read the description of the event. Its not supposed to be a level playing field, and yet for all intents and purposes it pretty much is. There is little to no difference between Iron Banner and regular crucible. It would be like saying you should be able to do vault of glass even though you are only a level 6 with white gear. It defeats the purpose of gear progression and trying to build your character to be better.

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