That's a point but it has no real bearing to what I'm trying to say nor the "real" problem ppl have with Iron Banner. Yes "No matter what, skill always has its place" But gear should have its place as well. Honestly, if you read my post, you should understand that low levels should be totally getting wrecked if they enter into IB. They have no place there. They deserve to get wrecked for going in unprepared. I'm not saying they should not be able to kill a higher lvl player at all, but they should be at a dramatic disavantage. Do you see people going into Vault of Glass with bad gear and low light levels and beating it right away? No Should people be going into Iron Banner and finding alot of success with sub par gear? No. Even if they are a really skilled player, they should still be facing some sort of disadvantage for going in unprepared. That is what Iron Banner is all about. Gear, level advantages, upgrades etc etc etc. Read the description of the event. Its not supposed to be a level playing field, and yet for all intents and purposes it pretty much is. There is little to no difference between Iron Banner and regular crucible. It would be like saying you should be able to do vault of glass even though you are only a level 6 with white gear. It defeats the purpose of gear progression and trying to build your character to be better.