I would actually expected IB to be a min lvl 20, I have grinded like a mofo on my hawkmoon since I got it so that I would be able to use it in the IB, lvl'ed up my sniper to max, grim citizen to max, zombie apocalypze and the shotgun from the raid is one less upgrade from max....and for what ??? Atm, it doesn't seem to be any difference from being lower lvl against higer lvl....I thought as you did that this was where we would throw every normalisation out the window and just see who had the pbest gear, highest armour and higher lvl'ed guns....like if I went against someone with a maxed out gun with 300 dmg and I was using a lvl 10 gun...I should get wrecked....I should be GB'ed with no lube, and they would not even have the curtesy to say thnx after....just for kicks I was running with a purple sniper rifle lvl 10 since I was doing the void dmg bounty on thorn, and it did almost as good dmg as my maxed out sniper,... Only difference is that my maxed out sniper has more inpact so bodyshots takes more healt....in many way it feels like a normal crucible just with really tiny tiny differences betwen a lvl 4 and a lvl 29.....I don't like that..... This was where gear was supposed to matter, and those who go in with waaaay to low lvl char should be prepared to be broken over a chair while the enemy team lines up behind him...I have one goal in the IB, and that is that i want my spacebus back, after that I don't see much point in doing IB over normal crucible, since all in all it's no difference between low lvl's (10 and below) and high lvl's (20 and above)