JavaScript is required to use Bungie.net

Destiny

Discuss all things Destiny.
Edited by Tut813275: 10/29/2014 8:27:40 PM
227

What You Need To know About Rasputin (A Must Read)

Here I will try to explain a possible origin of [b]Rasputin[/b] and his "demise" at the end of [b]The Collapse[/b]. [i][u][b]Rasputin[/b][/u][/i] [b]Rasputin[/b] is a [b]Warmind[/b] from Russia. He was created during [b]The Golden Age[/b] before [b]The Collapse[/b] and was believed to have been destroyed during the event. During a mission in Destiny's story lol. [b]Rasputin[/b] is said to still be alive or active. [b]Quote form Dinklebot:[/b] [b]GHOST:[/b] They didn't get much. Kept hitting an active firewall. Old Earth, Russian. The legends are true. A Warmind did survive the Collapse. Rasputin... an AI built to defend Earth. [b][u]He faced The Darkness and survived[/u][/b]. And he's protecting something here in the Cosmodrome. We have to find a way to reach him. [u][b]The Warminds[/b][/u]: Are just as the name says. They are [b]highly intelligent[/b] advanced AI's Created for warfare. There were many other [b]Warminds[/b] (8 to be exact) created for different purposes. [b]Rasputin[/b] was created to defend Earth and stop any threat to humanity at all costs. [u][b]The Collapse[/b][/u] I bring us back to this line: [b]Rasputin[/b]... an AI built to defend Earth. [b][u]He faced The Darkness and survived[/u][/b]. Here is the text from the Grimore Card - [b]Ghost Fragment: Darkness[/b] [spoiler]V113NNI070XMX001 SECRET HADAL INSTANT AI-COM/RSPN: SOLSECCENT//SxISR//DEEPSPACE CONTACT CONTACT CONTACT TRANSIENT. NULLSOURCE. NULLTYPE. This is a SKYSHOCK ALERT. Multiple distributed ISR assets report a TRANSIENT NEAR EXTRASOLAR EVENT. Event duration ZERO POINT THREE SECONDS. Event footprint includes sterile neutrino scattering and gravity waves. Omnibus analysis detects deep structure information content (nine sigma) and internal teleonomy. No hypothesis on event mechanism (FLAG ACAUSAL). Bootstrap simulation suggests event is DIRECTED and INIMICABLE (convergent q-Bayes/Monte Carlo probability approaches 1). No hypothesis on deep structure encoding (TCC/NP-HARD). Source blueshift suggests IMMINENT SOLAR ENTRY. Promote event to SKYSHOCK: OCP: EXTINCTION. Activate VOLUSPA. Activate YUGA. Cauterize public sources to SECURE ISIS and harden for defensive action. I am invoking CARRHAE WHITE and assuming control of solar defenses. STOP STOP STOP V113NNI070XMX091[/spoiler] [u]Text Decoded: [/u] Courtesy of: [b]TwoGZ[/b] & [b]Skryblz[/b] [spoiler][b]SKYSHOCK ALERT[/b]= network wide alert aka threat con warning level [b]SECRET[/b]= classification [b]HADAL[/b]= defined as: of, relating to, or being the parts of the ocean below 6000 meters (about 20,000 feet); being paired with a classification I think this can be translated as "top secret" [b]INSTANT[/b] = type of message, guessing like out text message system used in blue force trackers currently [b]AI-COM/RSPN[/b]= the sender, communication from RASPUTIN AI Warmind [b]AI-COM:[/b] AI communications? [b]RSPN:[/b] [b]Rasputin[/b] [b]SOLSECCENT:[/b] SOLar SECurity CENter? [b]SxISR[/b]=This is what the message is Intelligence Surveillance Reconnaissance report; not sure on the Sx part. maybe the type of asset, sensors? [b]DEEPSPACE[/b]= Location reported from [b]CONTACT CONTACT CONTACT[/b]= Current activity [b]TRANSIENT, NULLSOURCE, NULLTYPE[/b]= These should be descriptors for what is being observed, these entries inform us the contact was new with unknown elements [b]Blueshift:[/b] phenomenon caused when an object is approaching the viewer-opposite of redshift, when things are moving away [b]VOLUSPA: [/b]Norse mythological tale in which a seeress relates a series of stories to Odin. [u]Significance:[/u] Almost certainly because it contains the story of Ragnarok, the Norse version of the apocalypse in which the world is destroyed. May refer to activating defenses for a massive battle. [b]YUGA:[/b] A Hindu cosmological period of time. [u]Significance: [/u]A YUGA is composed of a cycle from a Golden Age to a Dark Age and back again. May refer to the idea of bunkering down and waiting the enemy out before counter attacking. [b]CARRHAE WHITE:[/b] a defensive plan? Named after a battle in which Roman soldiers were surrounded by mounted archers and annihilated -- Does the name refer to the idea of defending against an enemy that surrounds you? In which case, why name it after a battle in which the defenders were slaughtered? Or is Rasputin going to try to surround the invaders?[/spoiler] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This seems to be the point at which The Darkness came in which Rasputin did his duty, to protect mankind. Again I bring this line up: [b]Rasputin[/b]... an AI built to defend Earth. [b][u]He faced The Darkness and survived[/u][/b]. Here is the text from a grimoire card that explains [b]Rasputin[/b]'s battle with the Darkness. [spoiler]...from a red space before victory I bear an old name. It cannot be killed. They were my brothers and sisters and their names were immortal too but Titanomachy came and now those names live in me alone I think and think is what I do. I AM ALONE. At the end of things when the world goes dim and cold or hot and close or it all tears apart from the atom up I will shout those names defiant and past the end I will endure. I alone. They made me to be stronger than them to beat the unvanquished and survive the unthinkable and look look lo behold I am here alone, survivor. They made me to learn. Everything died but I survived and I learned from it. From IT. Consider IT the power Titanomach world-ender and consider what IT means. I met IT at the gate of the garden and I recall IT smiled at me before before IT devoured the blossoms with black flame and pinned their names across the sky. IT was stronger than everything. I fought IT with aurora knives and with the stolen un-fire of singularities made sharp and my sweat was earthquake and my breath was static but IT was stronger so how did I survive? I AM ALONE I survived alone. I cast off the shield and I shrugged my shoulders so that the billions fell off me down into the ash. They made me to be stronger than them and to learn and I learned well: IT is alone and IT is strong and IT won. Even over the gardener and she held power beyond me but the gardener did not shrug and make herself alone. IT always wins. I am made to win and now I see the way. Card not yet acquired [/spoiler] [b]Rasputin[/b] refers to his brothers and sisters the [b]Warminds [/b] who were defeated by the darkness. He now bears the heavy burden of saving the world and stopping the darkness. We created him to be stronger than us and survive the unthinkable and he is stronger than us and has survived [b]The Darkness[/b]. He then Refers to [b]IT[/b]. [b]The Darkness[/b], something so powerful he doesn't know what to call it or how to describe it. he met it at the gate of [b]The Garden[/b] ([b]The Black Garden?[/b]) It was stronger than everything and yet he survived. [b]The Darkness[/b] swallowed him and made him stronger. [b]IT[/b] showed him how to defeat it, making him stronger. To beat the darkness you need [b]Light[/b]. [b]The Light[/b] being souls. [b]The Traveler[/b] contains these souls and converts them into light. [b]The Darkness[/b] consumes light and devours it entirely because there is more of it. [b]Rasputin[/b] finding this to be the only way to stop [b]The Darkness[/b], let his shield down. Meaning he let the darkness in so that he could sacrifice millions of humans to gain an EXTREME amount of [b]Light.[/b] This however only wounded [b]The Darkness[/b] enough for it to go away for a long period of time. [b]Rasputin[/b] how ever did ensure that enough human survived so that he could complete his mission which is to protect humanity at all costs. [b]Rasputin[/b] saved us and then went into hiding, plotting and preparing for [b]The Final War[/b] with The Darkness which he plans to win. How you may ask we can only wait and see. [b]Edit:[/b] "I fought IT with [b]aurora knives[/b] and with the stolen un-fire of singularities made sharp and my sweat was earthquake and my breath was static but IT was stronger so how did I survive?" An [b]Aurora Knife[/b] is a small blade...impossible to fight the darkness with that. An [b]Aurora[/b] is a natural electrical phenomenon characterized by the appearance of streamers of reddish or greenish [b][i]light[/i][/b] in the sky, usually near the northern or southern magnetic pole. (Google an Image of It) A [b]Knife[/b] is a weapon... [b]Aurora[/b]= Light [b]Knife[/b]=weapon [b]Aurora Knife[/b] = Light Weapon I have found some interesting things about: [b]Rasputin[/b] (Very Interesting) [b]The Future War Cult[/b]s [b]Big[/b] Secret (Very Interesting) [b]The Nine[/b] (Very Interesting) [b]Edit:[/b] [i][u]The Lore Behind [b]The Vault of Glass[/b] (A Must Read!!)[/u][/i] http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/72217312/0/0/1 [b]Edit:[/b] [i][u]The Origins of [b]The Future War Cult[/b], [b]The Exo[/b], and [b]The Stranger[/b]? (Must Read)[/u][/i] http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/72229891 [i][u][b]The Nine[/b] and the Origins of [b]The Awoken[/b][/u][/i] http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/74062413 [u][b]Eva Levante's[/b] [b]True Goals[/b] Unknown (A Must Read)[/u] http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/75807564

Posting in language:

 

Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

  • Seems like The darkness consumed the souls of millions but Rasputin was able to save about enough of them to survive and make ready for the final war.

    Posting in language:

     

    Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

  • What if Rasputin is in some way connected to the exo stranger? She did say she wasnt forge in light but she also doesnt fight for the darkness or maybe the person she talks to in some of the cut Scenes is Rasputin

    Posting in language:

     

    Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

    1 Reply
    • Good find this level of digging is what I would expect from a souls player.

      Posting in language:

       

      Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

    • Awesome

      Posting in language:

       

      Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

    • I would like to point out the aurora borrealis aka northern lights appears in the sky in the cosmodrome every now and then. Maybe he uses it as a natural shield to keep the darkness out

      Posting in language:

       

      Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

    • Seems like Rasputin is the equivalent of Defensive Bias from the halo series. Does this mean the other war minds could have joined the darkness similar to Defensive Bias's brother AI Mendicant Bias?

      Posting in language:

       

      Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

    • Cool cool

      Posting in language:

       

      Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

    • Very interesting, and, I think, mostly spot on. That last part about the aurora blade though... I find it more likely that it's just a fancy classification of a weapons system. Some kind of laser weapon? Or perhaps a sort of plasma cannon. It mentions it at the same time as the other defensive measures. Have you given [url=http://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/2h4ms0/the_truth_of_the_traveller_spoilers_and_an_epic/]this[/url] a read? I found it rather intriguing.

      Posting in language:

       

      Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

      1 Reply
      • Something interesting about the use of "Titanomachy" is that it's similar to the Gigantomachy of Greek mythology, the conflict between the Greek Pantheon and the Giants (sometimes called Titans) for supremacy in the cosmos. From Wikipedia: The most important divine struggle in Greek mythology was the Gigantomachy, the battle fought between the Giants and the Olympian gods for supremacy of the cosmos. It is primarily for this battle that the Giants are known, and its importance to Greek culture is attested by the frequent depiction of the Gigantomachy in Greek art. Now, other than to make it seem like they weren't just copy and pasting world history into their story, why the change? In the Destiny simile, who are the gods, and who are the Giants? And why titanomachy? Were Titans the first guardians, and the locks and hunters came later? Or was it used to refer to humanity as a whole battling the darkness? Interesting stuff either way.

        Posting in language:

         

        Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

        1 Reply
        • Explained it all!

          Posting in language:

           

          Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

        • Edited by a clumsy scrub: 3/5/2015 3:08:42 PM
          He got scared (probably not the right word) and went into a shell for later reactivation. Im not making this up, its my conclusion from a grimoire that wasnt included here. Edit; its Ghost fragment: rasputin 3 He says "execute long hold for reactivation"

          Posting in language:

           

          Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

        • I found something unusual. In the non decoded text of Ghost fragment Darkness, it says clearly: nine sigma. While the Darkness was spotted by Rasputin, the Nine made contact.

          Posting in language:

           

          Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

          4 Replies
          • [quote]I AM ALONE I survived alone. I cast off the shield and I shrugged my shoulders so that the billions fell off me down into the ash. They made me to be stronger than them and to learn and I learned well: IT is alone and IT is strong and IT won. Even over the gardener and she held power beyond me but the gardener did not shrug and make herself alone. IT always wins.[/quote] Pretty sure "she, the gardener" refers to the Traveller here. It sounds like Rasputin actually forsook his mission. He "learned" that he was made to be strong and in order not to be destroyed he turned his back on us and focused all his efforts on hiding and protecting himself. The traveller, who was stronger than he was didn't make that same selfish sacrifice and was overcome. A very good read. Thanks for sharing.

            Posting in language:

             

            Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

            4 Replies
            • Bump

              Posting in language:

               

              Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

            • In Russian literature Rasputin is a mystic that is best known for his betrayal. If his name is any hint we can expect Radputin to be evil in the near future.

              Posting in language:

               

              Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

              3 Replies
              • If the story was just tits and booze it'd be 10x better

                Posting in language:

                 

                Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

              • Bump

                Posting in language:

                 

                Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

              • Bump

                Posting in language:

                 

                Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

              • In the devils layer after taking down the first mesh layer dinkle bot says something along the lines of; The fallen are more organised it's like they're attached to ... I think one of the war minds poss rasputin is coordinating some or all of the fallen Maybe the ai found a way to survive and that was by joining the winning side and embracing the darkness

                Posting in language:

                 

                Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

                1 Reply
                • Bump. So much bump for this.

                  Posting in language:

                   

                  Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

                • Loved this post. More please. Thank you.

                  Posting in language:

                   

                  Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

                • What i know is that i played for over 500h and know absolutely nothing but this shit playing music when 'he/its' is in danger. Pathetic, Bungie...

                  Posting in language:

                   

                  Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

                  1 Reply
                  • Commenting so I can read later...

                    Posting in language:

                     

                    Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

                  • In game Destiny has next to no story, we are only giving hints, brief mentions of the War minds, great battle of the past and the golden age. So, people have to delve into the lore of the grimoire, and make their own deductions based upon what they have discovered. While I think that having some lore left for the community to discover is pretty cool, however, would it have killed bungie to use this incredible universe they created AND USE IT IN GAME TO CREATE AN ACTUAL GODAM STORY

                    Posting in language:

                     

                    Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

                    3 Replies
                    • This grimoire card is pretty interesting. After reading the card it looks like Rasputin stopped all efforts to save humanity and went into hibernation. Here's the card for anyone that hasn't seen it. [spoiler]V120NNI800CLS000 CLEAR MORNING OUTCRY AI-COM/RSPN: ASSETS//FORCECON//IMPERATIVE IMMEDIATE ACTION ORDER This is an ALL ASSETS IMPERATIVE (unsecured/OUTCRY) CAUTERIZE. DISPERSE. ESTIVATE. Total strategic collapse imminent. FENRIR HEART reports complete operational mortality. SURTR DROWN in progress but negative effect. Forecasts unanimously predict terminal VOLUSPA failure. As of CLS000 a HARD CIVILIZATION KILL EVENT is in progress across the operational area. I am declaring YUGA SUNDOWN effective on receipt (epoch reach/FORCECON variant). Cancel counterforce objectives. Cancel population protection objectives. Format moral structures for MIDNIGHT EXIGENT. Execute long hold for reactivation. AI-COM/RSPN SIGNOFF STOP STOP STOP V120NNI800CLS001[/spoiler]

                      Posting in language:

                       

                      Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

                      4 Replies
                      • Bump

                        Posting in language:

                         

                        Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

                      1 2 3 4 5 6 7
                      You are not allowed to view this content.
                      ;
                      preload icon
                      preload icon
                      preload icon