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10/11/2014 12:49:39 AM
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[quote]IT is alone and IT is strong and IT won. Even over the gardener and she held power beyond me but the gardener did not shrug and make herself alone. IT always wins.
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this bit interest me a lot because if we assume that this is rasputin talking then it brings up the question of who this "gardener" is, the speaker claims that they "held power beyond me" and what is there that is more powerful than a warmind? the first thing that comes to mind for me is the traveler, it fits the card as well. the traveler gave its all to save humanity, sacrificing itself to save us, in other words unlike rasputin it refused to abandon humanity and flee/hide, leading to its current state.
the name gardener would fit as well, as we know that the traveler uplifts various races (see the ghost fragment on the traveler), it helps them grow and progress to a higher, more advanced state. these actions could definitely be seen as those of a gardeners.
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i had thought the gardeners were the vex and the gardener was maybe their previous leader before it got corrupted by the darkness
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Yes the Traveler is believed to be the garden, in this case it would make it true that The Black Garden is inside The Traveler. Basically Rasputin fought The Darkness in The Black Garden. I didn't want to bring this up because there's just too much we don't know.
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that doesn't seem likely to me for some reason, it just seems too far fetched to me right now. i would suggest that when they refer to the garden in that card they mean someplace other than the black garden, they way its used "garden" could be a metaphor or code name for any number of places. but that said, this is just pure speculation on my part.
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I know that's why i didn't bring it up, The Garden they speak of has been used before in the same way. but the gardener is knew. The theory that the Gardener it the traveler because the Traveler wasn't scared of the darkness makes sense though. Its just that I don't know where these garden is or what it is. I do know that these three met there. Also Rasputin issued a protocol to protect the Traveler, it could have been then when the three met. Also Rasputin probably need the Traveler to convert souls into light which could be the reason why the traveler is dormant...it doesn't have enough light to function.
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and that is where we come in a future sacrifice of all the light we acumulate over time. a selfish act by the big white ball in the sky. that does not need or want to be worshiped. that "only comunicates through the speaker".
