You mentioned a fully upgraded shot gun being used in pvp. The attack of a weapon is the same from when it is new to when it is fully upgraded. For example, the Suros does like 45 to the head when you have no upgrades and still does 45 when at 300 attack. My saying that pvp is balanced is that it isn't like iron banner is supposed to be. There aren't any level advantages. I was just commenting on you saying that a "fully upgraded shotty" couldn't kill a BD when in fact any shotgun can 1 shot one SHOWING your lack of knowledge on the topic AKA ignorance.