originally posted in:Spears of Destiny
Edit: Congrats everyone we were successful (at least in part) Please read Bungie's newest announcement here http://www.bungie.net/7_Bungie-Weekly-Update---10172014/en/News/News?aid=12295
DeeJ,
I have waited for destiny for a long time and had high hopes, but now you have proven to me that you have no idea what players want. This patch/suicide note, is absolute crap. I was a good little fanboy, I was willing to overlook the flaws in story line, gameplay, crap PvP, and mission design (yay protect dinglebot again while he performs a task that takes the storyline nowhere, I love this one!) I was even willing to overlook the insane bullet absorbing ability of every boss, and the fact that higher difficulty just meant adding oversheilds and even more damage absorbing powers, instead of a need for a new strategy. I was even willing to find 5 other players who had high levels, and enjoy dealing with frustrating glitches (oh look the portal didn't teleport me when I stepped through it again, guess that's a wipe guys, let's start over) and all because I wanted the best weapon in the game, you know a weapon that said "this guy went through days of the gaming equivalent to water boarding to get that, he earned it" so that you could nerf it by a third! Screw you bungie!
With great skill comes great reward, or now in this case with great skill comes the same stupid garbage that everyone else can find on the ground from a lvl one enemy! Do you understand nothing about what motivates gamers, and especially MMO gamers? We want that item that wails on people and does more damage than any other, because we earned it! The sense of accomplishment after doing the immposible and then having others recognize what you have achieved. It is the same reason we level in the first place, so that we can go back, find the mobs that killed us before and destroy them utterly, and in record time! (Btw you screwed that up as well, I shouldn't need to shoot a lvl 5 mob 4 times to kill them at level 29, they should explode, and peices of them should rain down on me as if its a blessing from some wrathful God. Also level 5 mobs should cower in fear of me, and hope that I do not turn my gaze upon them lest they are destroyed. What they shouldn't do is jump in my face like they did when I was a level 3) In short bungie, all of your weapons suck and need to do more to make us feel powerful in PvE when we reach endgame, they do not need to be nerfed, simply increase the ones you failed on.The enemies beneeth my lvl should act like it, they should act like we had to when we saw a level 25 and were only a lvl 10. (we ran away, fast, or were cut down with barely a wave of their hand, and we could do no damage to them.... at all......even with rockets!)
Bungie you have just turned a game that I was willing to forgive almost anything and justify its flaws to anyone....into my next trade in at gamestop. Once upon a time Xbox had a game called chromehounds and it was perfect for a year with a thriving online community, then they listened to the 10 year olds whining about it not being fair that people who worked for 400 hours had better gear than they did and could kill them, so they patched it to make it more fair to the newcommer who had invested no time and earned nothing, and the game died in under a month, please take this lesson to heart. As for myself and my clan, we want to stay and play for years but if you reward our loyalty and hard work (not to mention endless hours of raiding) with nerfing our loot, and ruining our clever strategies on raid we will go where we can get that feeling of accomplishment again, and you can pander to the casual gamers that are going to stop playing your game in 2 months regardless of what you do. Games where you level are meant to give advantages for leveling and games with Raids (MMOs) are supposed to have overpowered rewards for doing insane things on insane levels. Basically you have made the Raid even more difficult and reduced the reward for it, and taken away the aspect I liked most about the raid which was it forced players to be clever, to find ways to beat him that you did not intend (since you clearly intended for every boss to have the same strategy, dump enough ammo to cut the great prymids in half while avoiding getting shot and destroying the adds) let us face the truth, going from level 29 to level 30 is a tiny reward and it means shredding all the gear you bought or found for gear with very similiar stats and a slight defense bonus or worst case you end up with stats like "Increases shotgun ammo" when you hate shotguns and would rather use anything but that, to kill an enemy. If players whine about being killed in PvP too much by the Vex Mythoclast then here is a novel Idea... GO GET A MYTHOCLAST YOU IDIOT! The whole point in beating the overly difficult raid on 30 (soon to be almost immposible) is to improve.
This game just turned into a little league soccer game where "everyone is a special little snowflake, and nobody keeps score because no matter what you do we are all equal" So I am done excusing this game and may be done with it completly very soon. If this game had come out without the Bungie name behind it, it would currently have a score of 20/100 instead of 77/100 and you just took away all the incentive to play, by breaking any reason to participate in the ridiculously difficult endgame content. I beat level 30 Raid five times with the help of my very skilled clanmembers and can see no reason at all to beat it a sixth time. My disaspointment is only surpassed by your shame bungie. I hope you learn a lesson and spend more time fixing issues and creating new content (which of course you will then divide up and sell to us in ridiculously small increments) and stop destroying the few parts that already worked. Perhaps even try out a game that includes bosses more complicated than those found in "Contra" (bosses can absorb more damage and deal more damge with each level) and more mission depth than found in pong (defend stupidbot, and activate horde mode are not your only choices bungie, I promise). Right now you have held all of us hostage with the promise of great things in the future but crap in the present. When the Cryptach did that you said you took him to the woodshed, So take this as your trip to the woodshed and learn your lesson, if I wanted to play a game where everyone is equal and has the same gear I will go play call of duty. If you want me to spend years leveling up and "becoming legend" than reward me accordingly! You are Bungie, now act like it.
Edit: Some sort of response from Bungie would be greatly appreciated, so DeeJ if you read this drop us a line, I am sure everyone is more interested on what you have to say than they are in what I have said, I for one await your response eagerly, even if you just say "I read this" Thanks.
Edit: Day 3: Bungie, DeeJ, Your silence is becoming deafening.....
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well you know what they say. "IF IT AIN'T BROKE DONT FIX IT" SCREW THE WINERS
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So here goes a post that doesn't call you an idiot but respectfully disagrees with all but one point. I agree that the nerfing needs to stop THAT TRUCKING SAID. The game seriously needed mods I think the Titan needs a buff I think the scout rifle needs to be useful I think the general range/accuracy of the assault rifles need to be adjusted down or everything else except shotguns adjusted up. I can't speak for the wiz or the hunter as I don't play those classes. I'd like to see a pulse rifle adjustment and I'd like a little more variety in exotics BUT HERE IS MY ISSUE WITH BUNGIE They NERF not buff. I think that adjusting up or coming out with a new weapon type or special or class would be the better option. Then again that may be EXACTLY what they plan on doing. And on the vex mithockast I play crucible and if I die from it so what. ITS JUST A GAME Oh and #lootcave4ever
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I completely agree! I have been trying to be patient with Bungie because I loved their past games so much but all my patience has been rewarded with is more and more disappointment.
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You guys we have a problem. I was gunned down by a GRAVITON ESE shotgun that does 39 kinetic damage! This guns is way overpowered and needs to be nerfed! I dieD at least two times by the thing!!!
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A moment of silence for the mortar mechs in chromehounds...
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This was the greatest thing I have ever read. You captured my emotions and formatted them into literary art. I will print this out and laminate it. This post belongs in the louve. I think I have a crush on you.
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Dear Bungie, Really I am ok without a participation trophy. Seriously the legendary gear needs to be more legendary and exotic needs to stay exotic.
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Edited by Thorenkar: 10/14/2014 7:12:56 PM"With great skill comes great reward, or now in this case with great skill comes the same stupid garbage that everyone else can find on the ground from a lvl one enemy! Do you understand nothing about what motivates gamers, and especially MMO gamers? We want that item that wails on people and does more damage than any other, because we earned it! The sense of accomplishment after doing the immposible and then having others recognize what you have achieved. It is the same reason we level in the first place, so that we can go back, find the mobs that killed us before and destroy them utterly, and in record time! (Btw you screwed that up as well, I shouldn't need to shoot a lvl 5 mob 4 times to kill them at level 29, they should explode, and peices of them should rain down on me as if its a blessing from some wrathful God. Also level 5 mobs should cower in fear of me, and hope that I do not turn my gaze upon them lest they are destroyed. What they shouldn't do is jump in my face like they did when I was level a 3) In short bungie, all of your weapons suck and need to do more to make us feel powerful in PvE when we reach endgame, they do not need to be nerfed, simply increase the ones you failed on.The enemies beneeth my lvl should act like it, they should act like we had to when we saw a level 25 and were only a lvl 10. (we ran away, fast, or were cut down with barely a wave of their hand, and we could do no damage to them.... at all......even with rockets!) " Exactly how wow is run. A lvl 90 (max lvl) can walk into a zone, gather all the mobs there (hyperbole) and let them wail on them all day long doing no damage and making you feel amazing. The flip side is the RNG gods are limited in what gear can drop, i.e. the appropriate lvl gear for the mob dying. I thought it weird how I could kill a lvl 1 mob and get lvl 20 legendaries. And when this max lvl beast tired of toying with these pesky fools, a simple AOE blasted them all to oblivion, with much dps to spare. This is how you make a player feel legendary. I agree Vex Mythoclast needed a small nerfing, but I think a small drop in fire rate would have done it. This 1/3 reduction in damage is a tad overboard.
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Edited by julianwelton: 10/14/2014 8:29:23 PMI liked your post four times. It only counted once, but it's the thought that counts right?
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You're post is spot on. I have become so disappointed in the game. Every time I hop on the app and read the news it's always something else that Bungie -blam!-s up for the rest of us. I don't have the Vex Myth, and I will say that I was getting -blam!-ed up in pvp by it, but I didnt care!!! It made me want to work harder to try and get it. I started working hard to get to level 28 so that I could maybe finish the raid with my friends. Now my dream of getting the gun was shot and spat on. It -blam!-ing pisses me off. There are so many problems with this game. They need to stop catering to the -blam!-ing 10 year olds and start reading the posts that involve true improvement like this. I don't think I will play Destiny anymore. It's so bland and dry, there is no sense of being a badass because everyone is equal, there is no good storyline, and there are many other huge flaws. I hope Bungie really learns from all the -blam!- ups they made with this first Destiny. Hopefully they will stop sucking on activisions wang and actually give us something better next time.
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I truly feel that the answer to this patch is Increase the attack power on the mythoclast from 300 to 400... That would satisfy those complaints about the nerf while still nerfing the PvP aspect... And the pocket INFINITY needs to have that joke of a speed reload perk replaced with ammo regen.... INFINITE ONCE AGAIN... and not OP Problems solved for ALL... You are welcome
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Exceptionally well put and I completely agree with this entire paragraph. I spent an incredible amount of time EARNING my rewards, yet you want joe-shmo 10 hrs a week to be on my level..... Nerf me once, shame on you Nerf me twice, GO F--K YOURSELF WITH YOUR GARBAGE EQUALITY!
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I have to agree on the part of nerfing weapons makes no sense. Why would you nerf weapons for people that put the hours in. I find it highly frustrating that you're making this game easier and easier for noobs. The point of any good game is to put the time in and get the gear. I see you (bungie) as falling into the same trend as WoW did. They started with something great and as the years went by made it easier and easier for young kids. Personally I believe in overpowered guns armour etc. If I get my ass handed to me... Yes it's frustrating but at the end of the day it makes me want to play more. I want to be the person thrashing others. I want to be the one saying yeah I spent the time and earned shit. Now get over it and do it yourself. You need some unbalancing of gear otherwise what's the point of raiding etc.
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I hear you, I am sick of their useless changes to this game when there is so much that in the game that needs it. So they patch the part if the raid that makes it too easy, how bout the endless glitching? Maybe that should have been the priority... I am sick of suffering in PvE because people constantly bitch about being killing in PvP. My auto rifle is shit now, and the PvP douches are just on to the next thing to complain about, prolly fusion rifles.
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I think we the people should be bungies new development team, it's clear these guys have no clue as to what the players want, and are on the verge or ruining something that could be very special! I wish they would read these post with an open mind, and re think a lot of the -blam!-ery! Thanks newbie I appreciate your thoughts
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Fooling no one but yourself man. You won't be turning Destiny into Gamestop because you can't stop playing it because apparently as evident by your notes and tone it is more than just a game to you. Take a breath ot two... and no more Idle threats please.
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Don't you die on me destiny, I already had Titanfall die in my arms
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Agreed and bump
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Agreed. I loved reading this and can't find a single point I don't agree with. Well written and well spoken, thank you.
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I feel the same way about my thread. I feel as if they completely disregard it. https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/72904216/0/0
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"I'm angry that I can't use anything that's not overpowered and game-breaking, therefore /rant and call Bungie suicidal.
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Great
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I've thought up a pretty good solution, hear me out. I know my idea probably won't make it all the way I think it is the only way to satisfy both hardcore and casual gamers. The idea is simple. Split the crucible and vanguard. For instance, you plug the game in and instead of 3 characters, there's 3 characters for vanguard and 3 for crucible. In order to play crucible you have to play as a crucible player and use only weapons earned in crucible and bought at the tower. This would mean people who liked crucible and want changes could have changes that don't effect the vanguard. This would also mean all characters are now vanguard and you'd have to start a new one for crucible only. Along with this though, iron banner would remain only for vanguard. This being because people who want to show off their weapons such as the Vex Mythoclast can still do so, and people who don't want to start over but don't really care about the weapon differences can continue to play on iron banner. I know there are a lot of flaws to the idea but I do t see any other solution that would satisfy both groups.
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Well said
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Cool story bro...
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So you deserve a god mode gun because you used an cheesy exploit (clever strategy, lololol, nice try, I wonder if you even believe that) to get something that took great skill (which is apparently the equivalent of cheesy exploits). You are confused because you are angry because you are entitled.