originally posted in:Spears of Destiny
Edit: Congrats everyone we were successful (at least in part) Please read Bungie's newest announcement here http://www.bungie.net/7_Bungie-Weekly-Update---10172014/en/News/News?aid=12295
DeeJ,
I have waited for destiny for a long time and had high hopes, but now you have proven to me that you have no idea what players want. This patch/suicide note, is absolute crap. I was a good little fanboy, I was willing to overlook the flaws in story line, gameplay, crap PvP, and mission design (yay protect dinglebot again while he performs a task that takes the storyline nowhere, I love this one!) I was even willing to overlook the insane bullet absorbing ability of every boss, and the fact that higher difficulty just meant adding oversheilds and even more damage absorbing powers, instead of a need for a new strategy. I was even willing to find 5 other players who had high levels, and enjoy dealing with frustrating glitches (oh look the portal didn't teleport me when I stepped through it again, guess that's a wipe guys, let's start over) and all because I wanted the best weapon in the game, you know a weapon that said "this guy went through days of the gaming equivalent to water boarding to get that, he earned it" so that you could nerf it by a third! Screw you bungie!
With great skill comes great reward, or now in this case with great skill comes the same stupid garbage that everyone else can find on the ground from a lvl one enemy! Do you understand nothing about what motivates gamers, and especially MMO gamers? We want that item that wails on people and does more damage than any other, because we earned it! The sense of accomplishment after doing the immposible and then having others recognize what you have achieved. It is the same reason we level in the first place, so that we can go back, find the mobs that killed us before and destroy them utterly, and in record time! (Btw you screwed that up as well, I shouldn't need to shoot a lvl 5 mob 4 times to kill them at level 29, they should explode, and peices of them should rain down on me as if its a blessing from some wrathful God. Also level 5 mobs should cower in fear of me, and hope that I do not turn my gaze upon them lest they are destroyed. What they shouldn't do is jump in my face like they did when I was a level 3) In short bungie, all of your weapons suck and need to do more to make us feel powerful in PvE when we reach endgame, they do not need to be nerfed, simply increase the ones you failed on.The enemies beneeth my lvl should act like it, they should act like we had to when we saw a level 25 and were only a lvl 10. (we ran away, fast, or were cut down with barely a wave of their hand, and we could do no damage to them.... at all......even with rockets!)
Bungie you have just turned a game that I was willing to forgive almost anything and justify its flaws to anyone....into my next trade in at gamestop. Once upon a time Xbox had a game called chromehounds and it was perfect for a year with a thriving online community, then they listened to the 10 year olds whining about it not being fair that people who worked for 400 hours had better gear than they did and could kill them, so they patched it to make it more fair to the newcommer who had invested no time and earned nothing, and the game died in under a month, please take this lesson to heart. As for myself and my clan, we want to stay and play for years but if you reward our loyalty and hard work (not to mention endless hours of raiding) with nerfing our loot, and ruining our clever strategies on raid we will go where we can get that feeling of accomplishment again, and you can pander to the casual gamers that are going to stop playing your game in 2 months regardless of what you do. Games where you level are meant to give advantages for leveling and games with Raids (MMOs) are supposed to have overpowered rewards for doing insane things on insane levels. Basically you have made the Raid even more difficult and reduced the reward for it, and taken away the aspect I liked most about the raid which was it forced players to be clever, to find ways to beat him that you did not intend (since you clearly intended for every boss to have the same strategy, dump enough ammo to cut the great prymids in half while avoiding getting shot and destroying the adds) let us face the truth, going from level 29 to level 30 is a tiny reward and it means shredding all the gear you bought or found for gear with very similiar stats and a slight defense bonus or worst case you end up with stats like "Increases shotgun ammo" when you hate shotguns and would rather use anything but that, to kill an enemy. If players whine about being killed in PvP too much by the Vex Mythoclast then here is a novel Idea... GO GET A MYTHOCLAST YOU IDIOT! The whole point in beating the overly difficult raid on 30 (soon to be almost immposible) is to improve.
This game just turned into a little league soccer game where "everyone is a special little snowflake, and nobody keeps score because no matter what you do we are all equal" So I am done excusing this game and may be done with it completly very soon. If this game had come out without the Bungie name behind it, it would currently have a score of 20/100 instead of 77/100 and you just took away all the incentive to play, by breaking any reason to participate in the ridiculously difficult endgame content. I beat level 30 Raid five times with the help of my very skilled clanmembers and can see no reason at all to beat it a sixth time. My disaspointment is only surpassed by your shame bungie. I hope you learn a lesson and spend more time fixing issues and creating new content (which of course you will then divide up and sell to us in ridiculously small increments) and stop destroying the few parts that already worked. Perhaps even try out a game that includes bosses more complicated than those found in "Contra" (bosses can absorb more damage and deal more damge with each level) and more mission depth than found in pong (defend stupidbot, and activate horde mode are not your only choices bungie, I promise). Right now you have held all of us hostage with the promise of great things in the future but crap in the present. When the Cryptach did that you said you took him to the woodshed, So take this as your trip to the woodshed and learn your lesson, if I wanted to play a game where everyone is equal and has the same gear I will go play call of duty. If you want me to spend years leveling up and "becoming legend" than reward me accordingly! You are Bungie, now act like it.
Edit: Some sort of response from Bungie would be greatly appreciated, so DeeJ if you read this drop us a line, I am sure everyone is more interested on what you have to say than they are in what I have said, I for one await your response eagerly, even if you just say "I read this" Thanks.
Edit: Day 3: Bungie, DeeJ, Your silence is becoming deafening.....
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So you deserve a god mode gun because you used an cheesy exploit (clever strategy, lololol, nice try, I wonder if you even believe that) to get something that took great skill (which is apparently the equivalent of cheesy exploits). You are confused because you are angry because you are entitled.
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I have honestly started believing that they are ruining things on purpose and shipped a half-ass product on purpose, redesigning it the way they were ordered to do. That way for Destiny 2, Activision will say... youre right they wanted Mass Effect with good pvp, go make that like you wanted.
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Bravo Sir, Bravo
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Wow *slow clap * just wow * tear in eye *. That was perfectly stated.
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That was so perfect I might cry. Take note bungie.
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Great, I've been grinding strikes and bounties to get my vanguard to Lvl 3 specifically for a legendary assault rifle now they've been nerfed. I actually don't like pulse rifles and that's ALL the game has ever given me legendary & exotic. Guess this was the reason.
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TL:DR ?!
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this game, as predicted by your's truly is being tailored for children.. I am not even going to put this trash back into my ps4 disk drive. Now the dumb asses nerf guns that should have already been balanced at release, the next hotfix will nerf the few guns they buffed.. Meh this game is for spoiled kids that have the time to cry on internet forums.. Sorry bungie you guys SUCK... No different then the same ass bland overrated fps garbage on the market catering to children or brain dead dead beats...VIDEO games now are designed for the dumbass's on the planet... SHAME ON YOU BUNGIE FOR SELLING OUT.. you guys suck. same ole crap from a sold out game developer.. CATERING GUNS FOR KIDS and not fixing the damn game... ITS obvious your catering to the children and dead beats because the intelligent know this game is not a golden release.. Once again bungie sucks for slumming with dead beats...
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Edited by TheBus88420: 10/14/2014 7:07:44 PMSo you think the "best weapon in the game" for pvp should come from a pve raid??? You think a weapon that clearly dominated pvp should come from (mostly through a glitch) someone beating the AI??? No, sorry. The best pvp weapons should come through some incredibly difficult pvp task and the best pve weapons should come though some incredibly difficult pve task. They should NEVER commingle. The crucible sucked for anyone that didn't have one of the overpowered weapons there wasn't even a point in playing. I know numerous gamers with years of fps experience that simply quit playing destiny due to the pvp imbalance (they didn't want to pve). I understand that some people want the god mode gun in pvp that makes them the best. I think that's pathetic and clearly shows their character, or lack there of. I want my skill to dictate my kill to death ratio, not the gun I got from beating some pve raid lol
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[quote]I have waited for destiny for a long time and had high hopes, but now you have proven to me that you have no idea what players want. This patch/suicide note, is absolute crap. I was good, I was willing to overlook the flaws in story line, gameplay, crap PvP, and mission design (yay protect dinglebot again while he performs a task that takes the storyline nowhere, I love this one!) I was even willing to overlook the insane bullet absorbing ability of every boss, and the fact that higher difficulty just meant adding oversheilds and even more damage absorbing powers, instead of a need for a new strategy. I was even willing to find 5 other players who had high levels, and enjoy dealing with frustrating glitches (oh look the portal didn't teleport me when I stepped through it again, guess that's a wipe guys, let's start over) and all because I wanted the best weapon in the game, you know a weapon that said "this guy went through days of the gaming equivalent to water boarding to get that, he earned it" so that you could nerf it by a third! Screw you bungie! With great skill comes great reward, or now in this case with great skill comes the same stupid garbage that everyone else can find on the ground from a lvl one enemy! Do you understand nothing about what motivates gamers, and especially MMO gamers? We want that item that wails on people and does more damage than any other, because we earned it! The sense of accomplishment after doing the immposible and then having others recognize what you have achieved. It is the same reason we level in the first place, so that we can go back, find the mobs that killed us before and destroy them utterly, and in record time! (Btw you screwed that up as well, I shouldn't need to shoot a lvl 5 mob 4 times to kill them at level 29, they should explode, and peices of them should rain down on me as if its a blessing from some wrathful God. Also level 5 mobs should cower in fear of me, and hope that I do not turn my gaze upon them lest they are destroyed. What they shouldn't do is jump in my face like they did when I was level a 3) In short bungie, all of your weapons suck and need to do more to make us feel powerful in PvE when we reach endgame, they do not need to be nerfed, simply increase the ones you failed on.The enemies beneeth my lvl should act like it, they should act like we had to when we saw a level 25 and were only a lvl 10. (we ran away, fast, or were cut down with barely a wave of their hand, and we could do no damage to them.... at all......even with rockets!) Bungie you have just turned a game that I was willing to forgive almost anything and justify its flaws to anyone....into my next trade in at gamestop. Once upon a time Xbox had a game called chromehounds and it was perfect for a year with a thriving online community, then they listened to the 10 year olds whining about it not being fair that people who worked for 400 hours had better gear than they did and could kill them, so they patched it to make it more fair to the newcommer who had invested no time and earned nothing, and the game died in under a month, please take this lesson to heart. As for myself and my clan, we want to stay and play for years but if you reward our loyalty and hard work (not to mention endless hours of raiding) with nerfing our loot, and ruining our clever strategies on raid we will go where we can get that feeling of accomplishment again, and you can pander to the casual gamers that are going to stop playing your game in 2 months regardless of what you do. Games where you level are meant to give advantages for leveling and games with Raids (MMOs) are supposed to have overpowered rewards for doing insane things on insane levels. Basically you have made the Raid even more difficult and reduced the reward for it, and taken away the aspect I liked most about the raid which was it forced players to be clever, to find ways to beat him that you did not intend (since you clearly intended for every boss to have the same strategy, dump enough ammo to cut the great prymids in half while avoiding getting shot and destroying the adds) let us face the truth, going from level 29 to level 30 is a tiny reward and it means shredding all the gear you bought or found for gear with very similiar stats and a slight defense bonus or worst case you end up with stats like "Increases shotgun ammo" when you hate shotguns and would rather use anything but that, to kill an enemy. If players whine about being killed in PvP too much by the Vex Mythoclast then here is a novel Idea... GO GET A MYTHOCLAST YOU IDIOT! The whole point in beating the overly difficult raid on 30 (soon to be almost immposible) is to improve. This game just turned into a little league soccer game where "everyone is a special little snowflake, and nobody keeps score because no matter what you do we are all equal" So I am done excusing this game and may be done with it completly very soon. If this game had come out without the Bungie name behind it, it would currently have a score of 20/100 instead of 77/100 and you just took away all the incentive to play, by breaking any reason to participate in the ridiculously difficult endgame content. I beat level 30 Raid five times with the help of my very skilled clanmembers and can see no reason at all to beat it a sixth time. My disaspointment is only surpassed by your shame bungie. I hope you learn a lesson and spend more time fixing issues and creating new content (which of course you will then divide up and sell to us in ridiculously small increments) and stop destroying the few parts that already worked. Perhaps even try out a game that includes bosses more complicated than those found in "Contra" (bosses can absorb more damage and deal more damge with each level) and more mission depth than found in pong (defend stupidbot, and activate horde mode are not your only choices bungie, I promise). Right now you have held all of us hostage with the promise of great things in the future but crap in the present. When the Cryptach did that you said you took him to the woodshed, So take this as your trip to the woodshed and learn your lesson, if I wanted to play a game where everyone is equal and has the same gear I will go play call of duty. If you want me to spend years leveling up and "becoming legend" than reward me accordingly! You are Bungie, now act like it.[/quote] Why because you need to use a weapon that actually needs aimed instead of auto rifle lame.
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Someone give this guy a medal.
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Ugg, its four shots to five shots, you shouldn't be whining!
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I completely agree, i worked my butt off to get legendary and exotic wepons just to have my auto rifle nerfed and my exotic shotgun that i worked for a month to get the bounty mission for, produce the same result as the base weapons i already had. So now that ive finished everything i can do with the exception of the raid (which i see no point of after all the nerfing) i have quickly lost interest in doing anything with the game. And yes i am one of those that spent the money and got the $100 one and a base copy for my xbox1 just so i could play with all of my friends. Now i can understand having normal PvP matches be balanced, but with the iorn banner not allwing thoses of us that have work so hard and put in long hours be punished because of someone got there feelings hurt because they cant beat the lvl 29 titan that just stomped a mud hole in them is ridiculous. I hope at some point you will fix what was right already and then take care of the others.
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Bullcrap
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Well said
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Bumped to make sure Bungie sees it. If they "had" to nerf it, then only nerf it for PVP, where all the whining is coming from. Way to go killing your own game Bungie.
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Worst think bungie ever did was change pve based on complaints of pvp players a very large portion of the comunitee does not even play pvp if your objective was to chase away pve players please stay the course and I will sell my game back to gamestop
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71 ascendant shard ... no raid armor ... nothing to do ...
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I already rage quit this morning, maybe I can get used to it but this shit is wack
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Yea they shouldn't have nerfed the vex and auto's buffing the scout is good... They going to lose people cuz of this
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Please read and express opinions http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/id=73039299/0/0
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Dude the Vex Mythos WAS keyword WAS so Op that it was point and kill powerful. I faced someone using it . I had like a second or so to react before I died.
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this about sums up the game
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Completely agree vex is pretty much useless now
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Mythoclast still does work in pvp , more rewarding kills now that they upped the precision damage which requires a better player to be accurate , even though its a supposed "fusion rifle" it brings it more in line with what it actually is a scout rifle