The games you used were horrible examples. I'll be glad when call of duty comes out to siphon out all of rye annoying little kids who think they're good. And elder scrolls online, really. See oblivion and skyrim are in my top 10 games only all time. But I'm not going to buy this new zenimax piece of shit. The game looks horrible and it also has an extra $15 a month tag on it. If any game might kill the population it's gonna be halo mcc. It's the only game that might get me to take a break from destiny. But I think destiny's gonna hold strong in the end