A raid is a raid. Wether it is on normal or hard. People don't want someone who can't follow instructions or coordinate or even stay alive. Simple as that. Any raider would know how important those qualities are.

People only die because A) they have no method of communication and so can't be told information (where the question is more of a why do you have someone who can't communicate in the raid) or B) they aren't properly informed about the dangers and how to counter them. Heaven forbid I actually spend 5 minutes explaining a part of the raid before throwing them into a new section. And while I haven't beaten the raid on hard (mostly because I haven't found a group ready to give that much time and treat it any differently than normal raid), I have ran the normal raid six times in one day. And there is a big difference between the two. Normal raid can be carried by four people. Hard raid? Not so much.

You go spend 2+ hours on one checkpoint because one guy cannot stop dying no matter how easy we make for him/her. I was at the confluxes for 4 hours mostly because the same guy kept dying over and over again. We even told him to stay at the spawn and he still managed to die up there.

Done Atheon for 6 straight hours. Also, If 5 of you can't do confluxes on normal, that's a little disappointing. Finally, if you're going to say "it was hard", again, that's a completely different scenario

I beat the raid raid in less than an hour with people who knew what to do and know how to stay alive. I was referring to a moment where we had someone who had no idea about the importance of being alive in order to help the team move along. Also don't even get me started on the oracles because that shit is a mess to inexperienced people. I will never allow an inexperienced player to join my fireteam for a hard raid I also forgot to mention that, that situation I mentioned was on hard. Total time spent doing the entire raid on hard took about 8-10 hours. Not all at once though.

Hard raids are not for first timers, as I've been saying since the beginning. Hard raids are for people who have beaten it time and time again on normal. My best time for a raid was 52 minutes (normal). Aetheon took less than 6, no cheesing him off the map. My Aetheon struggle was on normal. Oracles are only a problem on hard (which, again, I don't suggest to inexperienced players). Finally, The raid can pretty much be run through on normal with no hiccups with 4 people. Having two inexperienced people is not that big of a problem if the other four know what to do. Then those 2 get some experience, they can start getting better, and, given enough time and the ability to be smarter than a maze rat, eventually be ready for hard. One last time, YOU WILL NEVER SEE ME ENCOURAGING SOMEONE WITH NO EXPERIENCE TO DO THE HARD RAID. The point of this thing in its entirety is that there is a large difference between 26 and 30 raids, and that helping people learn on 26 is the proper way to go, that most of the issues have been with you not saying that your philosophy of not helping newbies in the raid only applies to hard and not saying that the experiences you have had have mostly happened on hard. Bring a newbie into hard and you get what you ask for. I have a minimum of 5 raids complete before someone can join me on a hard raid, and even then I don't do it very much because people don't want to take it seriously.