Hey dark it's Deaf again! My take on new raiders is this: 1. You are not -blam!-ing Rambo so don't go in like an idiot (major emphasis on this if on hard) 2. Stay close to the person leading you through through the gorgon maze/ if you know your way through, guide others in an orderly fashion 3. Crouch when you see a gorgon less than 10ft away from you 4. Call out pretorians 5. Shoot the big red/ green digital thingies called oracles. Oracle alive= Wipe 6. Jump to the mid block floating between the two portals in the last part when the portal people come out. ALWAYS 7. If you hold a shield, please tell everyone to go the the midblock as I stated. BE THE FIRST ONE THERE. 8. Listen, don't argue 9. The raid needs Patience and Time to complete. If all else fails, you need a Plan C.If you don't have one, completing VoG will be a huge Thorn in your side. My Super Good Advice would to be friends with a guy who is 30 with a Vex Mythoclast. With my tips, you too, can bring Atheon to say The Last Word he will ever say, "here's an exotic Hard Light, bleh" *dies* 4