I do raids legit all the time. The hard fix that's coming is going to seperate the players that can only glitch their way through the raid from the ones that actually know how to strategize. I've seen level 30's that only know how to beat the vault by cheating it. Which is sad because it's really not all that bad if you have a group of competent individuals.
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Edited by Marsattacks69: 10/26/2014 4:06:48 PMI've done it both ways. To be honest I feel like the team sets the tone. If you are in a team that has quite diverse ability (amazing to competent) I find that sometimes the better players get frustrated very quickly when the team starts to go go down. Rather than try and work out why everyone is dying or what the weak link doesn't understand, they get angry and start telling everyone to do their jobs! This leads the worse players to feel more incompetent and they invariably play worse. Then the cries for using the exploits grow louder and you just have to go along with the team or start again fresh.
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Luckily for me, my raid teams and clan happen to be very cohesive. It also helps that we laugh off the mistakes, after all, it is only a game. I have seen videos though where the teamwork disintegrates and it quickly descends into a finger pointing blame session
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Yeah man, can't wait for the patch! Separate the men and women from the boys and the girls.