I actually find it longer and more tedious to do the glitches. Both the Templar and Atheon battles are sadly quite simple.
The most difficult part is the Gatekeeper sequence and the confluxes / oracles before Templar ( I actually find the difficulty of these two reversed in hard mode, as the pre-Templar fight is a bitxh ).
As for his comments on Hunters in terms of PVE, he's technically right. Both Hunter supers are PVP based. Not only that, but they're very weak in VoG.
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Actually watch the video of aetheon dieing in 17 seconds on hard mode, 3 of those players are hunters. the other 3 are Warlocks. Notice how theres no Titans? Titans are the weakest class.
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are you nuts I'm a warlock and I want a Titan with me with that damn Bubble. He will keep me safe and ill resurrect and then revive him. We dont need no hunter
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Edited by RaspingNose07: 10/26/2014 8:03:00 PMThey used the gjallhorn launchers. That had absolutely nothing to do with class specific supers. I mean no disrespect to the hunter class. You guys got shafted with two " PVP " styled supers, while titans and warlocks each got a viable PVE option. EDIT: the above weak comment wasn't about hunters, it was regarding their supers. In case there was any confusion
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Gunslinger drops oracles in 1 hit each. Titans and Warlocks super cant even hit oracles.
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And mind you, thats only on normal.
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Oracles are easy to kill.... Lol
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Except having a Defender Titan is pretty much a staple on any VoG team.
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For what? I've never had a need for defender titans sure they're nice but not needed at all not even a little
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Defender drops shield on centre platform with Weapons of Light, that combined with Time's Vengeance combined with Gjallarhorn etc drops Atheon very fast.
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Weapons of light shield gives 35% bonus damage stacked with times vengance
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And? That makes it slightly faster its not like a necessity
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Im just telling you why he said it. It helps
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i would rather have a more dps oriented sub class then a defender the raid is so easy i dont see why you would need a defender in it. I only do it on hardmode and it is honestly pointless to have a titan in the group. there specials are terrible for this raid.