allow me to preface this by saying this is all based on a good hunter who doesn't die. i'll give you that a hunter who struggles is less useful than any other class. [quote] the only thing you need to kill quickly is the oracles and other things sacrificing to the confluxes[/quote] the golden gun one shots fanatics and the AoE from their explosion softens up everything around them. the hunter super is better at this than anyone else's. although the golden gun can't one shot oracles it still puts alot of damage on them. it's still free damage everytime you get tele'd. i think youre writing that off too quickly [quote]The fact that three shots with the golden Gun can't kill a Pretorian is a little ridiculous[/quote] can any other super? you cant say the hunter is weak offensively because his super cant do something no other super can do. that being said, rockets are faster and i dont advise using the goldengun instead of a gjalla against a praetorian. [quote]the hunter also has the worst grenades of any class[/quote] none of his grenades can be used to push a boss off the map if that's what you mean. well placed tripmines kill multiple adds, and high to atheon with times vengence. far from the worst grenades of all [quote] Considering the extra team support options and the ability to survive longer that the warlock and titan supers offer[/quote] yes, the titan bubble benefits the team more than any hunter ability, but saying the warlock super is better assumes the hunter dies. a hunter who doesnt die is far more useful than a sunbro who doesnt die since the sunbro will sit on his super until he goes down, while a hunter will use it all the time, dealing more damage and generating more orbs than the warlock. [quote]I am not really sure what you mean when you ask if any other super can kill an oracle, because since no class can, [/quote] if no other super can kill oracles, how does that make the golden gun worse than any other super? what other super can even damage oracles (the red timestream ones, not the templar ones)? [quote]the hunter really isn't very useful since it really does not have much of a specialty during the raid.[/quote] the hunters speciality is kill everything quickly, which it does better than any other class.