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10/27/2014 12:25:23 AM
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I have absolutely not idea what you are talking about. Both Thorn and Bad JuJu [but Bad JuJu even more-so] are ATROCIOUS weapons. I'm not sure what your level of progression is, but at higher levels these weapons are unusable. Bad JuJu needs more damage and possibly a larger magazine size to be effective, and I don't even use hand cannons, but mostly everyone who I've talked to have dismissed Thorn as a viable option as a primary.
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Ok, I'm level 28 and I only have one more upgrade on Bad Juju left. With the String of Curses perk, it becomes quite an excellent weapon. Like I said- no game changer, but I prefer it that way. As long as you're good with precision damage (and since I started with hand cannons precision damage is my bread and butter) it can be a beast for taking out streams of lower-tiered enemies like Dregs, Thralls, or Acolytes. But if you're going up against a bigger enemy like a Gate Lord or such, you probably want to switch to something with a little more punch. I only got the Thorn two days ago, but from what I've seen it also isn't that bad. The recoil is pretty standard for a hand cannon in my opinion and it also deals good damage. My only complaint really is the reload speed as I said above- I haven't taken the Thorn into the Crucible for this specific reason. Of course it all comes down to opinion in the end. If you don't like them, that's fine.
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I love thorn to death! I do bring it with me in every crucible match I go into, except for the recent ones (got pocket infinity) while I don't think it needs a impact or recoil buff (i think those stats are fine the way they are) I do think they need to buff that reload speed AND magazine size.
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Yes, bad juju is fun to use when taking out low level mobs.... Whipteedoo. I have sir is regime, bad juju and a legendary scout rifle. I use the scout rifle any time I'm doing something serious. I use suros for crucible. I use bad juju when I'm farming on patrols. Bad juju is utterly under powered compared against other legendary pulse rifles. We don't even need to compare it's effectiveness against other worthy exotic rifles.
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Edited by Refried: 10/27/2014 1:10:59 AMThorn has a slow reload speed and only holds 6 rounds, when you compare it to the legendary hand cannons from vendors(Devil You Know and Lord High Fixer) they have better stats and 12 round magazines. Thorn is fine damage wise but it needs more rounds in the mag or it needs a much faster reload time. Thorn is an exotic, it should have a benefit over using the Legendary Hand Cannons from the vendors. Also they need to make it so that every shot reapplies the DoT, as it stands only your first shot applies the DoT so it's wearing off by the time you get your last shot off.
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Seriously. Double the reload speed, leave everything else alone, and grab a coke. Why does my 12 round Devil reload faster than my 6 round thorn? And my Devil has higher impact. Or better yet. Drop the last round bonus damage and make it reload lightning quick on precision kills. Done. Thank me later,
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Agreed on both counts, or kind of. The Thorn's reload speed in my opinion is by far it's absolute worst attribute. I haven't gotten to the DoT perk yet, so I can't offer an opinion on that.
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Omfg both need a buff
