Kid? Assumptions. Your warlock has what 4 abilities unlocked? Yea you are so great with all 3 classes, as you claim. You forget the fact that you have to enter super to shoot with takes a tick or two off of the times vengeance, sure if you have the helmet you might get one to two shots off but it doesn't change the fact you can get 8 ice breaker shots off at 19k a pop. If it takes your team more than two times vengeance to kill atheon, you're doing it wrong.