The title "gamer" has been dished out everywhere. Look at the wii... that system got destroyed, because they appeal to casuals with party games. So, Im not sure if "most gamers" are or arent casuals. However, hardcore gamers arent 24/7 player only. I like to think they are gamers who are into a game for the challenge. One which has been robbed of us so many times...and Destiny is an example of another. The point, even as someone who is busy myself (doc student, gf, work, and other stuff)...I dont find myself getting on every day, but my experience has been robbed. I feel as if this game has moved from a deeply rich mechanics game with a deep story into just a shooter...might as well be a hack slash.