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10/28/2014 8:19:23 PM
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Iron Banner was a joke, its was nothing more than a renamed standard crucible. Bungie tried to cover their tracks on the matter saying gear only counted for 20% and yet a level 4 could go in with the stock gear and do the same damage against a level 28 as in standard crucible. Gear litterally meant nothing in the Iron Banner.
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  • No they said Gear was 80% and skill was 20%. There was a 7 lvl max advantage. Get your facts right before you complain.

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  • Edited by Father Giliam: 10/28/2014 8:32:59 PM
    "Some people have done just that, though. Can you explain how a Level 5 Guardian can use a starter gun to take down a Raid veteran? Derek: Your skill will take you 80% of the way to victory, but that last 20% will be a much harder climb without the gear you’ve been relying on." From Bungie themselves. I think you should take your own advice and get your facts straight before trying to correct others. And regardless, there was video proof of a level 4 with the Khostov doing the same damage against a 28 and a 10.

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  • Edited by BeTheLight: 10/28/2014 8:41:32 PM
    I've seen such videos with one guy in PVP with his friends and he gets kills on targets that 2 or 3 people are all shooting at. They played the game well as a team, seldom does he 1v1 someone who and make them look like a joke (unless they actually don't know how to play PVP) My bad on the mix up I guess but it doesn't really matter since they're correcting that next time around.

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  • The video in question was actually 3 people purposely testing it, not just clips taken from a game. But I agree, gear should be a factor, but it wasn't previously. That being said it shouldn't be the only factor, skill should definitely still be the major factor.

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  • I do not know if we watched the same video. But I will agree on the skill part, it would be nice to have gear and weapon advantages as well. Just to try it out.

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  • Guess not, I saw it on the forums. It was a group of 3 guys (2 on 1 team, 1 on the other) repeatedly running to the same area and testing the damage of their guns on eachother.

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  • Oh no different video indeed.

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  • [quote]Iron Banner was a joke, its was nothing more than a renamed standard crucible. Bungie tried to cover their tracks on the matter saying gear only counted for 20% and yet a level 4 could go in with the stock gear and do the same damage against a level 28 as in standard crucible. Gear litterally meant nothing in the Iron Banner.[/quote] Wrong. You're just stupid.

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  • Edited by Father Giliam: 10/28/2014 8:24:50 PM
    Yes, im wrong despite the video proof on the matter. I agree that the primary factor should be skill, but as it was, gear didn't do anything.

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