I don't think that the Atheon fight changes are overly burdensome. I've never actually pushed him off myself we have always fought him straight up. I've done the raid three times mostly with somewhat inexperienced people. First time took us 4 hours when I was level 26. We didn't beat Atheon until one guy left and we were able to replace him with a higher level guy. The second time we got to the last stage but then a guys power went out and we didn't have a replacement and it was too hard to five man it and after 2 hours everyone was worn out anyways. The last time my team did it (some the same some different raiders) we cleared it in two hours. The first two times since I was one of the newest I got "plate" duty -- seemed like the easiest thing I guess. The last time I went into the portal and shot oracles and personally I thought that was much easier. So personally I think it will be great for everyone to experience each part of the mission rather than be assigned and maybe be stuck watching the plate for 2-3 runs till you have "experience." I can agree with the football analogy but only to a point. Sure the line backer is trained to do certain things but if there's a fumble he's still got to pick up the ball and run for the end zone not just stand there and say, "My job is to block, not to run with the ball." PS: For folks who say experienced players now won't take newbs in, well if they are not willing to be patient I'm not sure why they are in your clan (or perhaps you are in the wrong clan). The best way to raid is to get everyone experience so you find the future raid leaders and get them geared up so that the same clan mates don't always have to shoulder the burden.