Are we having a moment? I really like you, you come across as knowing what you're talking about and structure them accordingly, however you are completely inaccurate and illogical..which makes it fun! Shame you are leaving destiny. lol WoW a complete game, obviously going by previous comments, you are not used to these games and can only speculate. I however did play WoW on release, and with barely playable raids, the huge linear grind factor to get there (despite chains being bugged for weeks) the server downtimes, NO PVP BATTLEGROUNDS and months after when they were released...only 2 (WSG and AB). Cheesing Atheon? What about 1-hitting raid bosses with a warriors execute bug? or not being able to do bosses at all due to some classes causing a bug reset or wipe. Loot...easily ninjad with a bad group, items drop that your faction can't use, no matchmaking, AH easily exploited, flooded with farmbots, holy crap i could go on forever. But yes, i kept playing because of 'Faith in a fairly common business model' Its one thing to compare Destiny with a 10-year developed game (which is dumb), but whats worse is that you compare it on the level of the same initial release timeframe, that's shooting urself in the foot. lol $20 for WoW and their release date expansions? i think you are confused with their monthly subscription rate. If i didn't think you sounded so serious about ur facts, i'd say u'd be trolling - ur fun!