Ya, what Thimba said. COD will def take a major population from Destiny. Destiny is really broken into two groups, PvP players are all of the COD players that played the PvE and were like 'wtf is a grind? No thanks...', and PvE players are all about the story (well...maybe not the story) and RPG elements. COD and Far Cry 4 will take most of the hardcore fps and PvP players, and AC:U and DA:I will take most of the PvE players...all in November too. I hit 30 last week and have not picked it up since...even after the reset. Its sad that I'm having more fun playing Alien Isolation (which has surprised that crap outta me!). I bought the stupid collectors edition and already have a season pass, but I can even say that it is total BS that they are actually charging for content that should have been open from the start. $20 for the next DLC will be understandable, but not when the game doesn't even feel out of beta yet.