Oh u mean the -blam!-ing p.v.p gear??? The new gear thats only meant for the p.v.p like the crucible??? That same gear that will do u no -blam!-ing good for the raids or strikes in the p.v.e????? The very same gear that will give u p.v.p bonus but nothing for the p.v.e???? Thats wat ur talking about right??? Well done sir. U made me understand the errors of my....... Wait. ....... hmmmmm nope.... u 2 are truly retarded. Like I said before, understand the -blam!-ing game first, then once u have, come talk to me again!!!! P.v.p and p.v.e are 2 very different things. There's gear for each.... its not a "one size fits all" Deal.... This is y destiny is getting a bad rep. Because idiots like u don't understand the -blam!-ing game first!!!!