OK, I finally get where you're coming from and I absolutely agree on the bigger part of your arguments. Especially considering the huge pressure and skyhigh expectations certain parties had for this franchise. But I refuse to believe Destiny as it is, made a nett loss a month after its release. Can you give me a source for the 325 mill? Because if not, I still have the 500 mill gross revenue in the back of my head that Activision themselves mentioned compared to the initial investment that's nowhere near that number. In any case, we don't have to find common ground on the business side. All I gather from our talk is that we both like the game, we like the promise it held, the potential it showed but we dislike the end result and the feeling that the business side interfered too much with the overall gaming experience the most of us had.