[quote]What I want to know is why here in England we have to pay £20 where in America it's $20 doesn't budgie have no concept of exchange rates or just trying to extort us at every opportunity?[/quote]
Not making excuses for them but isn't that the norm across the board for all DLC? 15 euro, 15 dollar? etc... Even as an American I understand where you're coming from. At one point the $ was worth more and we felt the same sentiment you're expressing.
It smells somewhat of bullshyte but I could see the marketing teams (or accounting teams, if they are just ignoring conversion rates) of all game companies (not just bungie as this seems standard practice) saying they want one single numerical # to make international marketing easier/less cumbersome. Still that's bullcrap, just playing devils advocate to see the practice from another side...
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Well one euros are worth significantly less to pounds and dollars even more our currency is in a strong position which really should equate to the dlc being nearer to 10/15 pounds and not 20 the gamea is subject to conversion rates and so should the dlc it's not like they have to ship it.......
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[quote]Well one euros are worth significantly less to pounds and dollars even more our currency is in a strong position which really should equate to the dlc being nearer to 10/15 pounds and not 20 the gamea is subject to conversion rates and so should the dlc it's not like they have to ship it.......[/quote] I know man. It is a rip. Not excuse making, just trying to see other side. I feel for you. Maybe the DLC should cost 15 euro and 25 dollar for it to be fair. I know not exact conversion rate but it makes for easy to use numbers. Maybe they figured out selling it at 20 units of currency across the board is the best way to both recoup dev cost and to make it easy on the marketing team when discussing prices. Like I said it isn't right. Conversion rates should be applied to digital marketplaces but there could be legit reasons as a business model as to why it is done. It seems to be standard practice. Once again man, I feel your pain.
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I see what you mean but it's an incredibly unintelligent lazy decision which kind of sums up bungie/activisions management of destiny and it's no worries as I won't be buying dlc as I have always been against the releasing of content post release especially when the cost doesn't scale against what your buying
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[quote]I see what you mean but it's an incredibly unintelligent lazy decision which kind of sums up bungie/activisions management of destiny and it's no worries as I won't be buying dlc as I have always been against the releasing of content post release especially when the cost doesn't scale against what your buying[/quote] Good man, vote with your wallet! The no conversion rates in digital marketplaces is ridiculous! If everyone voted with their wallet instead of voting with complaints businesses would actually see and feel the impact of their poor/consumer indifferent decisions... I do have a question. Did you boycott other DLCs and companies that did the same thing? Once again, not White Knighting for Bungie, I guess I just want to know if you had the same stance with the same practice for different games? Or are you just now seeing what a joke that practice is and Destiny is just the first to feel the wrath of your knowledge? Sorry if coming off as an ass, I am trying to have legit convo. Tone can be muted in text discussions.
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I have the same stance against all games really it's just for them to draw more money from consumers. I think what brings it on is the fact you used to be able to buy expansions for games which had a whole games worth of content and now not even a whole game has a decent amount of content that's acceptable for the amount of money being paid.
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[quote]I have the same stance against all games really it's just for them to draw more money from consumers. I think what brings it on is the fact you used to be able to buy expansions for games which had a whole games worth of content and now not even a whole game has a decent amount of content that's acceptable for the amount of money being paid.[/quote] ...is *not* true... Sorry for typo in first paragraph.
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Yeah I do love the game too its just the whole they say it's an mmo without subscriptions but you have to pay for additional content which is pretty much the same thing and their servers are poor for it. I got kicked out less on games back in the 56k era. Also it's not like the expansion is additional since for an mmorpg the core game content is seriously lacking plus the loot system is absurd and rewards luck over effort which isn't nice when your not a lucky person haha
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[quote]Yeah I do love the game too its just the whole they say it's an mmo without subscriptions but you have to pay for additional content which is pretty much the same thing and their servers are poor for it. I got kicked out less on games back in the 56k era. Also it's not like the expansion is additional since for an mmorpg the core game content is seriously lacking plus the loot system is absurd and rewards luck over effort which isn't nice when your not a lucky person haha[/quote] Haha.. I feel like if it wasn't for bad luck, I wouldn't have any luck too sometimes.. To me and my friends server disconnections are too frequent and too random, seemingly . I don't think Bungie has ever said it was an MMO, they have actually tried to not get the media to runaway with calling it an MMORPG. And it seems like the media has given them that but the still call it an MMO. I guess I can agree with that branding but I dont think Bungie does... They consistently called it the first game in its own subgenre of the FPS and MMORPG, they have only said that Destiny is a Shared World Shooter. I don't think they've ever referred to it as an MMORPG. Trust me I get it. I totally do get a lot of the criticism... Destiny is not a perfect game. It is an amazing game and does a heck of a lot right. More than wrong, in my opinion. I guess the wrongs are outweighing the rights for a lot of people.. I just feel it has gotten too much. The game should be appreciated for what it they marketed it as, a shared world shooter. Not an MMO, RPG, FPS even though Destiny can be considered all 3 of those things. Just bout every update gets me giddy about what the future of this game, or even the frickin sequel will be... I have never been able to say I will be playing all the way up til that point. But it hasn't gotten its hooks out of me yet 120+ hours in... I have barely even touched crucible (just over 150 cruc marks earned total!) so there is even more I can do. I doubt it will last forever but I will enjoy it while it does. I honestly don't think people in general give this game a fair break.
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[quote]I have the same stance against all games really it's just for them to draw more money from consumers. I think what brings it on is the fact you used to be able to buy expansions for games which had a whole games worth of content and now not even a whole game has a decent amount of content that's acceptable for the amount of money being paid.[/quote] Yeah... What the first expansion is offering is kinda light compared to my expectations... But your sentiment is entirely true... Older CoDs (MW1) launch with 15maps and you'd get 3 maps for 15$ each... That is 1/5th of half the game for 1/4th price... Destiny you get 1/3 the multiplayer maps and maybe 2 hours additional story and from reading interviews it sounds like the story is going to be presented and structured very differently. Towards end of game missions started taking 45-60 minutes first time through... I'd image each of the new 3 story missions will at least be that long, probably longer. So 33% extra PvP maps, 33% more strikes, 100% more raids, and dozens of pieces of new armor and weapons (based off PS, XB adjust $ a tad) for 33% of game cost. That sounds about right/industry standard. All in all I think Destiny gets a bad wrap for not being what people expected... I am having more fun and playing it WAYY more than I expected going into it... However I was on a 5 year FPS boycott (No PvP and hardly any FPS PvE from CoDMW2(2009) til Titanfall2014) and I love loot based games (dungeon crawlers)... I hardly played Destiny unless my clanmates were on. I was too busy playing games I was really digging. Then on October 9th everything all changed. A month after games release and playing an hour+ a day half way willingly with my friends, we finally attempted the Vault of Glass. I refused to read anything on it so when I finally played it I was blown away. The following night we finished it (after getting stuck at the spawning Atheon battle first night!) and I have been absolutely hooked ever since. Going for all exotics and max Grimoire Score. :) I respect your decision about this game. I just hope you gave it a fair shot because this game has amazing mechanics so everything else that needs to be fixed can. In its current state Destiny is the game I have always wanted. Not executed the way I wanted it but my expectations were low coming in as I don't dig into FPS much so I was presently surprised when Destiny fulfilled an itch I have had my whole life... Halo tight shooting mechanics married with the dungeon crawling, loot collecting, character building role playing systems of Phantasy Star Online or Diablo.