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To the people complaining about the DLC, updates, and bungie in general, let's take a moment to exercise some common sense. [b]DLC?[/b] YES, a good portion of the future DLC is already in the game and is technically accessable by glitching out of the maps. However, if you were to actually do this, you would find that the areas are far from perfectly complete. They are very buggy and contain a whole lot of problems. Sure, Bungie included these places before launch, but have you ever considered that they did it to make it easier down the road for themselves, rather than just to rob you of money? Furthermore, charging for DLC is not a new concept. Nearly every successful game does this. Call of Duty has been doing it for years and NO ONE complains! The only difference is that CoD doesn't put the maps in the game before, because its not a free roam world! So where would they put them?? But that doesn't stop them from charging you every penny they can get for each new map pack. [b]CONTRACTUAL RIGHTS[/b] Upset that you are on Xbox and have to wait a year for stuff that Play Station already has? Well get used to it because there is a contract in place (just like how Xbox had rights to Halo) that says Playstation has the rights! At least it's just a year and not FORVER like halo was. [b]10 YEAR PLAN[/b] If Destiny truly has a 10 year plan for expansions, do you actually believe that they can keep paying their employees for 10 years off of the 60$ we spent to buy the game? No! They would run out of money in no time. Just like any on running massive multiplayer online game, they need to charge a little bit of money in order to keep themselves functioning! To everyone that feels the need to point out that the 10 year plan in fact involves several new titles and additions to the legacy, bear in mind that regardless of how the 10 year plan is carried out, it requires money. This game is Bungie's baby. They want to make it the best game they have ever made. Give them time, be patient, and enjoy the future releases. [b]UPDATES[/b] People are constantly asking for updates for the game. I am sure bungie is listening to you, but what do you want them to do? Reply to 10,000 comments a day saying, "we read your comment and the idea is in consideration"? Do you have any idea how long it takes for developers to consider an idea, bring it before the board, plan the idea, beta test the idea, execute the idea, and finish the -blam!-ing idea? It takes a long -blam!-ing time! They plan on working on this game for 10 years. So expect many, many, many updates during that time. But they can only be done so fast. Developers aren't god. They can't build the world in seven days. So get used to it, or quit the game. If you are patient enough to stick around, expect some pretty cool content coming in the near/far future. [b]TIME[/b] Let's consider one final thing. The majority of the players that have run out of things to do in Destiny have played 150+ hours. This game has been out for less than two months. The reason it is out of content is because we have literally OVERPLAYED it. Speaking from personal experience, I have played nearly 300 hours because this game is amazing. I highly doubt the developers of the game were ready for that. If you are worried about content running out, maybe slow down a little bit. Even at my 300 hours, I am still having fun. But that's just me. However, there are very few games that are capable from ripping me away from the real world. __________________________________________________________________ Stop being such entitled little bitches and either just quit the game or accept that the world isn't free and takes time to make perfect. _____________________________________________________________________ [b]TL;DR[/b] (too long; didn't read) - It is not free to continue producing content for a game - A 10 year plan requires a 10 year budget - The DLC "already in the game" is not finished. If you glitch out to it, you will see it needs considerable work before being ready for play. - Bungie is contractually bound to release certain content on PSN only (for a year), it's not an option. Thats how contracts work. - Updates take a considerable amount of time, and if Bungie wants this game to last 10 years, they need 10 years of updates. Be patient. - If you are out of content already it may be time to go outside, or maybe call one of those friends you forgot you had. [quote]Well when you think about it, Microsoft has more money than they will probably ever need. But thats no reason for them to start handing out copies of Office for free. The world runs on money, and whether we like it or not, we are part of the world. If the DLC was free, I would love it. But I very seldom get handed free things, so I am not too worried about buying it. [b]I can spend 20$ for one night downtown that I won't even remember. I would happily spend 20$ for another 100 hours of gameplay that I will love every minute of.[/b][/quote]
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  • Edited by SmanM: 10/31/2014 8:04:28 PM
    What part of destiny is by definition, "free roam"? I must have a different Destiny since I'm on Xbox or something because the Destiny I've seen is a digital bowl with things within it. I guess the Legend of Zelda is free roam too, then. Ah yes, the 10 year plan. Are you even positive you and the community surrounding you will even remember this game in 10 years? Let alone 2 years? Because with the money they had mentioned being their budget for the games creation not even half of that went into the game even after the Beta tests. (which we're still in) Half of a billion dollars was to go into the game before the games release. Their words not mine. They were making their money back equaling then dwarfing beyond what they "put in". These forums are a mess and furthermore a joke, since a lot of the suggestions/discrepancies, in regards to this and that desire/request for identical things that they have showcased being capable of many times over in a few days span if not less. Moreover, everything being bickered about should already been implemented in the game in the first place. Players shouldn't have to "slow it down" and even the ones who played it as sluggish as possible are having the same problem everyone unhappy with the game, which is the vast majority, have already addressed. It's not that there isn't enough content it's because for $60, $100+ for those who preordered everything, it's because there isn't ANY content given on the disc to begin with. Destiny was supposed to have MASSIVE amounts of content to begin with, yet when it doesn't there are an abundance of excuses in Bungies defense like they still delivered the game they promised would end all other titles. By that logic we should still be exploring the unknown where hitting the level cap shouldn't concern you for that is only the beginning... Lie. Blatent lie and extremely obvious now, but hindsight, right? A decade is a long time, my friend. The game is tanking fast and a lot of people are going to leave rightfully they should. The story was non existent, 90% of the characters don't have names, there is no plot, there's no desire to play any further since the point of doing so has been lost. You're good at regurgitating the information Bungie has released, but also most of that information is pre launch and therefore invalid and obsolete Intel. And I'm assuming you along with the other Bungie butt loving cronies thought that what was posted is an infallible statement that is without contestation, but that couldn't be further from reality. All of that was devised to keep you clinging on for a game that's not going to make it. The game is dead. Accept that fact and you'll be wiser for it.

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  • Did you not see the video? When bungie said all the terrain you could see would be playable? You could roam the land similar to skyrim.

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  • You believe them? How's that character customization working for you? How's the server patches for you? This is game isn't even in the same ballpark as Skyrim. Skyrim actually has a world with a larger gaming content within to start with so you just lost. Sorry. Destiny is a dead game.

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  • What are you smoking?

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  • Obviously not the delusional shit you smoke. Lol

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  • Well, then perhaps you should go find the promotional video where bungie told us everything that you could see was playable terrain. That's not delusion, it's false advertising. And what you are suffering from is call sackrideritis.

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  • So we agree that they lied.

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  • Umm, exactly. I've been saying this the whole time. So what are you smoking that has had an adverse effect on your reading comprehension?

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  • Simple misinterpretation, nothing more. I'm not too worried about it, you shouldn't be either.

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  • Oh I'm worried... For your health.

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  • Cool story. Lmao

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  • The point is that you need to either accept the game for what it is (a pretty fun one) or quit. It doesn't matter what the community wants, what people beg for, or what Bungie may have said that they wanted to include in the game. The game is what it is. You should feel fortunate that they are listening to anything the community asks for at all. It's their game, not yours. They made decisions on how to make it, they decided what to release, and they are the ones that get to do what with they want with it. Yes, the game looks rushed. That is true. But I'm happy I have any content at all to play with. If you don't like it, I'm sure there is another game for you. I will stick around.

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  • Nice weak, loopholed rebuddle. Your opinion is literally the minority and you think DeeJ, Bungie or Activision are going to run a marathon of 10 years without solid ground to travel on? I haven't played Destiny in days so your suggestion, though unoriginal from your Bungie/Activision genital loving cronies, is moot just like the long list of irrelevant material you regurgitated from DeeJ and Bungie. Go ahead if you want and stay, you're probably the crowd Bungie and Activision dumbed down the game for and scrapped the original concepts and elements that made the game great ultimately leaving us with this empty game.

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  • Edited by Biitcoin: 10/31/2014 11:56:54 PM
    You aren't worth the time. Just realize that our "opinions" don't matter. The game will proceed as the developers deem best fit regardless of what you or the "majority" says. But, it seems like you want to complain. So complain away. The world is just so unfair isn't it?

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  • The one thing we can agree on is that our opinions don't matter since, Bungie has made that flagrantly clear with these forums. I'm well aware the world isn't fair so the taunt won't work on me like it probably has to the other gamers you've jabbed that remark at before me. Complaining? Not at all, I just wanted to uproot the ignorance and blind adoration for your, God to Christian faith, in Bungie that was the entirety of your post. You're a drone and more than likely an advocate for DeeJ to try to keep the undecided individuals to keep faith in a failed product which will only further disappoint them. If you care to continue then please go on. Your stupidity is entertaining to be honest. So please post another paragraph how I'm not worth it, but contradict yourself further by issuing another poorly thought up retort in defense of this shoddy product made by a band of thieves and liars. Lol

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  • Nice one dude.

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  • Thank you

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  • There is a difference between DLC and content being locked away on the disc. If this was regular DLC that was never there until after being installed I would be fine with it. Let me sell you a fast food meal. Then, when you come back for the meal you see there are no fries there and I tell you they will be extra just because I want to charge you again for them. How happy would you be?

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  • I guess you completely missed his point about CoD and other games. How do you know they aren't "on disc" if they aren't open world games with areas that can be glitched into? I see nothing wrong with the basic infrastructure of the dlc already being in place. These areas are clearly not finished. You will still have to download much of what is going to be there

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  • Because people in programming and game development haven't ripped open the content and found where it is on the disc? Is it that hard for you to understand?

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  • Bump

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  • This post has logic in this forum! ITS AMAZING.

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  • [quote]To the people complaining about the DLC, updates, and bungie in general, let's take a moment to exercise some common sense. [b]DLC?[/b] YES, a good portion of the future DLC is already in the game and is technically accessable by glitching out of the maps. However, if you were to actually do this, you would find that the areas are far from perfectly complete. They are very buggy and contain a whole lot of problems. Sure, Bungie included these places before launch, but have you ever considered that they did it to make it easier down the road for themselves, rather than just to rob you of money? Furthermore, charging for DLC is not a new concept. Nearly every successful game does this. Call of Duty has been doing it for years and NO ONE complains! The only difference is that CoD doesn't put the maps in the game before, because its not a free roam world! So where would they put them?? But that doesn't stop them from charging you every penny they can get for each new map pack. [b]CONTRACTUAL RIGHTS[/b] Upset that you are on Xbox and have to wait a year for stuff that Play Station already has? Well get used to it because there is a contract in place (just like how Xbox had rights to Halo) that says Playstation has the rights! At least it's just a year and not FORVER like halo was. [b]10 YEAR PLAN[/b] If Destiny truly has a 10 year plan for expansions, do you actually believe that they can keep paying their employees for 10 years off of the 60$ we spent to buy the game? No! They would run out of money in no time. Just like any on running massive multiplayer online game, they need to charge a little bit of money in order to keep themselves functioning! To everyone that feels the need to point out that the 10 year plan in fact involves several new titles and additions to the legacy, bear in mind that regardless of how the 10 year plan is carried out, it requires money. This game is Bungie's baby. They want to make it the best game they have ever made. Give them time, be patient, and enjoy the future releases. [b]UPDATES[/b] People are constantly asking for updates for the game. I am sure bungie is listening to you, but what do you want them to do? Reply to 10,000 comments a day saying, "we read your comment and the idea is in consideration"? Do you have any idea how long it takes for developers to consider an idea, bring it before the board, plan the idea, beta test the idea, execute the idea, and finish the -blam!-ing idea? It takes a long -blam!-ing time! They plan on working on this game for 10 years. So expect many, many, many updates during that time. But they can only be done so fast. Developers aren't god. They can't build the world in seven days. So get used to it, or quit the game. If you are patient enough to stick around, expect some pretty cool content coming in the near/far future. [b]TIME[/b] Let's consider one final thing. The majority of the players that have run out of things to do in Destiny have played 150+ hours. This game has been out for less than two months. The reason it is out of content is because we have literally OVERPLAYED it. Speaking from personal experience, I have played nearly 300 hours because this game is amazing. I highly doubt the developers of the game were ready for that. If you are worried about content running out, maybe slow down a little bit. Even at my 300 hours, I am still having fun. But that's just me. However, there are very few games that are capable from ripping me away from the real world. __________________________________________________________________ Stop being such entitled little bitches and either just quit the game or accept that the world isn't free and takes time to make perfect. _____________________________________________________________________ [b]TL;DR[/b] (too long; didn't read) - It is not free to continue producing content for a game - A 10 year plan requires a 10 year budget - The DLC "already in the game" is not finished. If you glitch out to it, you will see it needs considerable work before being ready for play. - Bungie is contractually bound to release certain content on PSN only (for a year), it's not an option. Thats how contracts work. - Updates take a considerable amount of time, and if Bungie wants this game to last 10 years, they need 10 years of updates. Be patient. - If you are out of content already it may be time to go outside, or maybe call one of those friends you forgot you had. [quote]Well when you think about it, Microsoft has more money than they will probably ever need. But thats no reason for them to start handing out copies of Office for free. The world runs on money, and whether we like it or not, we are part of the world. If the DLC was free, I would love it. But I very seldom get handed free things, so I am not too worried about buying it. [b]I can spend 20$ for one night downtown that I won't even remember. I would happily spend 20$ for another 100 hours of gameplay that I will love every minute of.[/b][/quote][/quote] You wasted a lot of time typing this. They Messed up selling their baby to PS4. Bad call.

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  • Not a bad call at all, but the way they are doing it is BS. Make us pay for something we get a year later? I'd be happy to wait a month or two and get the full dlc.

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    You wasted a lot of space quoting it.

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