So true, this game is a TEN YEAR project and people are already complaining about how the story has a terrible ending!? Ending?!?! the game has only been out for 2 months and it still has 9 more years to go. It isn't even over!!!.....But yes, Destiny isn't the best game ever. There are still a lot of bugs, and glitches, and the game has some correlation with the Halo series (with the invisibility, weapons, the dashing back and forth). But instead of over playing it, and beating the Glass Vault 100 times, be patience and let Bungie unfold the masterpiece of Destiny.

Halo is Bungie's baby, nerd.

Halo is actually a teenager now and only receives revenue from one console so as far as making money is concerned this is their baby.

That one console and that one game are the only reason Bungie was able to make Destiny.

Well duh I'm not an idiot. Going forward though they're going to cater to the masses.

I never said you were an idiot man. We're just talking. I'm just disappointed with the lack of content. Giving it a chance with the first two expansions though.

I've put around 150 hours in and I'm still not bored so it's paid for itself. Didn't even start playing it until all the bad reviews. People got so hyped for this game it was impossible to meet expectations. I even bought the $90 version and I'm not upset.

There's no narrative though. Do you just sit there and shut your brain off when you play? I could give a shit less about any character in this game. Including my own character.

Watch the live action trailer where they're just running around being bad asses. That's kind of how I see it. You were brought back from the dead to be a soldier in a war that you're probably going to lose. I don't expect wars that are so daunting to be concluded so quickly. In part, your experience as a soldier is the story. Sometimes I use my Time and Patience and stealth my way through. Sometimes I'm charging into a crowd to use fists of havoc. I don't understand why people need a story to follow and why they want it to have some conclusion already. If we had a 40 hr story like most rpgs, minus skyrim which is a good 80, then what would you do? What if the story takes years to tell? I'd rather have years of a developing story than one 40 hr one with dlc tidbits that are irrelevant when compared to the main plot.

Many game titles concern soldiers engaged in a war in defense of earth/humanity in which the odds do not favor survival. The entire Gears of War franchise focused on that theme, as did Mass Effect -- not to mention Halo. Yet those titles also included clear story content for each new release in the franchise. I imagine for Gears of War and Halo, that content was less important to players than figuring out ways to shoot as many enemies as possible and finish the final boss fight. However, there nonetheless was a consistent attempt to keep a story in place, that it affected how the later releases played. And GoW competitive mode was far more robust than Destiny -- especially the innovations introduced with GoW2, which largely revolutionized how competitive gameplay would occur. In the case of Mass Effect, people were so engaged by the story as it progressed from ME to ME2 to ME3, and its influence on character development, that few issues became as topical as did the ending of the series. But that controversy was driven by the fact that each release of Mass Effect/ME2/ME3 AND the DLC content all independently produced story-telling. The Shadow Broker DLC for ME2 was arguably as entertaining as any individual game. The Red Undead Nightmare DLC for Red Dead Redemption likewise was extraordinarily popular in part because it introduced an entirely new and original over-riding story to the game. Moreover, the Mass Effect franchise, while a single player RPG, nonetheless produced far more content across each game's individual universe than does Destiny, even as ME too encouraged grinding (e,g, mining on individual planets) and weapon development. Destiny does not fee it even was concerned with story content development. As a soldier/Guardian, at a minimum, shouldn't it at least matter WHY you were resurrected, and in what class of soldier? I mean, as a hunter, what do you substantively bring as a soldier that a titan does not? While your supers different, there is effectively no difference in class when it comes to use of weapons. I get that many people (obviously) are comfortable with the game is it exists now. It's a FPS, and a MMO, and I fully expect it to take core features from each genre. Many people clearly do have fun with the mechanics, the grinding, and the reward system. I myself am still playing so obviously there is entertainment built into the current design. However, I looked forward to each new development in the individual stories in franchises like Mass Effect and Red Dead Redemption. Here, unlike opening Mexico for the first time in RDR, opening Mars felt like a different landscape with stronger opponents than earth, but in all other respects essentially the same experience as earth -- in part because there is no significant story that drives your anticipation of moving to another world. And to me, that is a huge disappointment.

Red dead, gow, and ME all single player based games that rely on content only. Sure gow had some pvp but it was lame imo. Realistically I can't explain why I have so much fun playing. I just do. It's cooperative pve that I enjoy the most and that has a lot to do with the people I play with.

There's nothing wrong with the gameplay mechanics I just don't care about what I'm doing or know why doing what I'm doing. If you wanna run around and hulk smash mindlessly this game is perfect but as for me I like having characters I care about and actually have motives. (E.g. Master Chief)

Think about the online aspect of destiny vs. Halo. Everyone would be running around as master chief right now. Yeah you care about that character but what's the difference between you and everyone else? Atleast my story mode character that I care about even if it's just a little is also my pvp combatant. The story will continue to develop so I'm not worried

I think many of your points are valid -- especially your observations on the PS4 v. xBox exclusivity issue. It is common for one platform to have a temporal advantage over the other. Sony and Microsoft pay for such exclusivity, and hope that attracts gamers to one or the other platform. Skyrim had nearly a year lead on xBox over Playstation. That's just business. I am an xBox one owner -- I don't begrudge Bungie that PS4 has some content that I don't. Sony didn't get that advantage for free. Where I respectfully (and I do mean respectfully) take issue with your post centers on your observation that the game is overplayed, and your opinion that this fact reflects the game is amazing. In my mind, that is (as I said, respectfully) a non-sequitur. The game is overplayed because the content originally included with Destiny is relatively quaint. An amazing game is one like Skyrim, or the original Halo, or Dark Souls, that in some way revolutionizes gameplay beyond the immediate game. Skyrim offered players an immense open world where at 100 hours you still had vast quantities of new content (and frequently geography) to explore. The original Halo introduced revolutionary gameply and FPS mechanics that are still influencing FPS design. Dark Souls introduced a difficulty level coupled with a pioneering online method of competitive and cooperative play that even Bungie acknowledges influenced the design of Destiny. Yet, despite claiming to be influenced by Dark Souls,. Destiny is not close to that game. No one could ever hope to run through the main content of Dark Souls in 10 hours. Many people had trouble completing individual quests in that amount of time. Destiny is enjoying a marketing niche right now where it can be overplayed because it doesn't have the level of competition that is coming in November. Yet, I am almost certain that Destiny is already beginning to bleed gamers due to tedium and the fact that gamers have been seeing the same content almost from the very week the game debuted. I did two bounty patrol missions on the moon this week in which combined, I saw three other players the entire time. Just three weeks ago, I would regularly see at least 2-3 people at each outpost on the moon when I was patrolling. I have also become accustomed to solo-ing public events. I simply cannot believe this is coincidence, or a good sign for Destiny. Simply stated, I personally think Destiny is losing players exactly because it is not amazing -- that is,. as I said, it is not Dark Souls, it is not Skyrim, it is not even Borderlands. Destiny is entertaining, I am not here to claim otherwise. But so are a lot of other titles. Destiny is deservedly receiving ratings in the 70s on metacritic which is good, but not great. It is not the Game of the Year. And when other labels like CoD, Halo, Alien Insurrection, Dragonage, etc. hit the market in the next few weeks, do you really think Destiny will continue to be overplayed? Will the DLC still drive 2-3 million players to Destiny at Christmas when some gamers will still be playing other titles? What will happen in first or second quarter 2015 when titles like Witcher 3 hit stores (with an open world allegedly three times Skyrim's)? I concede I myself don''t know, as people tend to gravitate to common game styles and mechanics (i.e. FPS, MMO, single player RPG, etc). Maybe that fact will help more than hurt Destiny, because it has a first mover advantage (releasing the title in early September was brilliant marketing, to be candid). But I have my doubts., and I have them because I simply do not believe Destiny is "amazing." I wish it were, but I have to call the game how I see it. It is good, and entertaining, but it will not prevent me from exploring other games when the time comes.

[quote]To the people complaining about the DLC, updates, and bungie in general, let's take a moment to exercise some common sense.[/quote] This is the internet. [quote][b]DLC?[/b] YES, a good portion of the future DLC is already in the game and is technically accessable by glitching out of the maps. However, if you were to actually do this, you would find that the areas are far from perfectly complete. They are very buggy and contain a whole lot of problems. Sure, Bungie included these places before launch, but have you ever considered that they did it to make it easier down the road for themselves, rather than just to rob you of money?[/quote] And yet they are planning on making a crap out of it. The DLC is there and it shouldn't force the player to pay more to unlock an area he already has on the disc. They chose to cut content from the game and sell it. If you were here the days Destiny was still being announced you would've known that this wasn't the game Bungie promised. [quote]Furthermore, charging for DLC is not a new concept. Nearly every successful game does this. Call of Duty has been doing it for years and NO ONE complains! The only difference is that CoD doesn't put the maps in the game before, because its not a free roam world! So where would they put them?? But that doesn't stop them from charging you every penny they can get for each new map pack.[/quote] And? No one is complaining about having DLC, is that they are cutting content out of the game to sell it as DLC. Destiny on the other hand has the content in there but cut the major pieces. Plenty of open-world games don't put the DLC before, most of them close the area since there's nothing but a blank space. Destiny on the other hand.... Both COD and Destiny are Activision games so who wouldn't expect a cash grab. [quote][b]CONTRACTUAL RIGHTS[/b] Upset that you are on Xbox and have to wait a year for stuff that Play Station already has? Well get used to it because there is a contract in place (just like how Xbox had rights to Halo) that says Playstation has the rights! At least it's just a year and not FORVER like halo was.[/quote] Did you know if it wasn't for Microsoft buying the Halo rights Bungie wouldn't have made it right? Halo became an Xbox exclusive because Microsoft bought the rights to it and had Bungie making the games. Playstation doesn't have the rights to Destiny who the -blam!- told you that? Bungie made partnership with Activision to work for them but Bungie owns the rights to the game. Sony just sent a big bag of money to Activision so they could get Exclusive DLC, just like COD with Microsoft. (Can you see the big bad now?) [quote][b]10 YEAR PLAN[/b] If Destiny truly has a 10 year plan for expansions, do you actually believe that they can keep paying their employees for 10 years off of the 60$ we spent to buy the game? No! They would run out of money in no time. Just like any on running massive multiplayer online game, they need to charge a little bit of money in order to keep themselves functioning! [/quote] Em yes what's your point here? Also the 10 year plan is for the franchise not this game. [quote]To everyone that feels the need to point out that the 10 year plan in fact involves several new titles and additions to the legacy, bear in mind that regardless of how the 10 year plan is carried out, it requires money. [/quote] No shit [quote]This game is Bungie's baby. They want to make it the best game they have ever made. Give them time, be patient, and enjoy the future releases. [/quote] I think everyone is tired of all the half-assed promises. The Franchise will survive until Activision milks it to death. [quote][b]UPDATES[/b] People are constantly asking for updates for the game. I am sure bungie is listening to you, but what do you want them to do?[/quote] Isn't this a supposed "MMO"? [quote]Reply to 10,000 comments a day saying, "we read your comment and the idea is in consideration"?[/quote] No people want clarification which Bungie keeps to themselves. [quote]Do you have any idea how long it takes for developers to consider an idea, bring it before the board, plan the idea, beta test the idea, execute the idea, and finish the -blam!-ing idea? It takes a long -blam!-ing time![/quote] And people are patient for that, is the faft that Bungie doesn't give a shit which is the problem. [quote]They plan on working on this game for 10 years.[/quote] Games. Fix'd [quote]So expect many, many, many updates during that time. But they can only be done so fast. Developers aren't god. They can't build the world in seven days. So get used to it, or quit the game. [/quote] Way to help your game. [quote]If you are patient enough to stick around, expect some pretty cool content coming in the near/far future.[/quote] Which people are, your not seeing the bigger picture here. [quote][b]TIME[/b] Let's consider one final thing. The majority of the players that have run out of things to do in Destiny have played 150+ hours. This game has been out for less than two months. The reason it is out of content is because we have literally OVERPLAYED it. Speaking from personal experience, I have played nearly 300 hours because this game is amazing. I highly doubt the developers of the game were ready for that. [/quote] So because you played +300 hours it makes your opinion valid and not for the ones who played +150? Also is your opinion you find it amazing. [quote]If you are worried about content running out, maybe slow down a little bit. Even at my 300 hours, I am still having fun. But that's just me.[/quote] Exactly, its just you. Did you know that Bungie promised much more than what there is right now? They promised exclusive areas for each class to hang out, to explore Europa, one of Jupiter's moons, to explore derelict ships, bigger worlds [quote]Do you see that mountain over there... You can go there -Bungie 2013[/quote] and much more. [quote]However, there are very few games that are capable from ripping me away from the real world. [/quote] Again, your opinion. [quote]Stop being such entitled little bitches and either just quit the game or accept that the world isn't free and takes time to make perfect.[/quote] Lmao to death [quote][b]TL;DR[/b] (too long; didn't read) - It is not free to continue producing content for a game - A 10 year plan requires a 10 year budget - The DLC "already in the game" is not finished. If you glitch out to it, you will see it needs considerable work before being ready for play. - Bungie is contractually bound to release certain content on PSN only (for a year), it's not an option. Thats how contracts work. - Updates take a considerable amount of time, and if Bungie wants this game to last 10 years, they need 10 years of updates. Be patient. - If you are out of content already it may be time to go outside, or maybe call one of those friends you forgot you had.[/quote] - We already know that. - We already know that, plus they have Activision for that. - The work that was cut off the game to be sold as DLC. -Everyone knew that when they announced it, both PS and Xbox fans went mad when they announced all of the content that is going to be timed exclusive for a year. -Everyone knows that - >Complains on an internet forum about people needing to get a life. [quote][quote]Well when you think about it, Microsoft has more money than they will probably ever need. But thats no reason for them to start handing out copies of Office for free. The world runs on money, and whether we like it or not, we are part of the world. If the DLC was free, I would love it. But I very seldom get handed free things, so I am not too worried about buying it. [/quote] The point of this? [quote]I can spend 20$ for one night downtown that I won't even remember. I would happily spend 20$ for another 100 hours of gameplay that I will love every minute of.[/quote] So you'll rather spend $20 on DLC then spending $20 on having a great time with your friends/family/fiancee? And then he complains that we are the ones who need a life.

Boy are you going to be disappointed when you move out of your parent's basement and enter the real world. Don't hold back. Let the butt hurt flow thru you!

Rustled Desticles assemble!