To the people complaining about the DLC, updates, and bungie in general, let's take a moment to exercise some common sense.
[b]DLC?[/b]
YES, a good portion of the future DLC is already in the game and is technically accessable by glitching out of the maps. However, if you were to actually do this, you would find that the areas are far from perfectly complete. They are very buggy and contain a whole lot of problems. Sure, Bungie included these places before launch, but have you ever considered that they did it to make it easier down the road for themselves, rather than just to rob you of money?
Furthermore, charging for DLC is not a new concept. Nearly every successful game does this. Call of Duty has been doing it for years and NO ONE complains! The only difference is that CoD doesn't put the maps in the game before, because its not a free roam world! So where would they put them?? But that doesn't stop them from charging you every penny they can get for each new map pack.
[b]CONTRACTUAL RIGHTS[/b]
Upset that you are on Xbox and have to wait a year for stuff that Play Station already has? Well get used to it because there is a contract in place (just like how Xbox had rights to Halo) that says Playstation has the rights! At least it's just a year and not FORVER like halo was.
[b]10 YEAR PLAN[/b]
If Destiny truly has a 10 year plan for expansions, do you actually believe that they can keep paying their employees for 10 years off of the 60$ we spent to buy the game? No! They would run out of money in no time. Just like any on running massive multiplayer online game, they need to charge a little bit of money in order to keep themselves functioning!
To everyone that feels the need to point out that the 10 year plan in fact involves several new titles and additions to the legacy, bear in mind that regardless of how the 10 year plan is carried out, it requires money. This game is Bungie's baby. They want to make it the best game they have ever made. Give them time, be patient, and enjoy the future releases.
[b]UPDATES[/b]
People are constantly asking for updates for the game. I am sure bungie is listening to you, but what do you want them to do? Reply to 10,000 comments a day saying, "we read your comment and the idea is in consideration"? Do you have any idea how long it takes for developers to consider an idea, bring it before the board, plan the idea, beta test the idea, execute the idea, and finish the -blam!-ing idea? It takes a long -blam!-ing time! They plan on working on this game for 10 years. So expect many, many, many updates during that time. But they can only be done so fast. Developers aren't god. They can't build the world in seven days. So get used to it, or quit the game.
If you are patient enough to stick around, expect some pretty cool content coming in the near/far future.
[b]TIME[/b]
Let's consider one final thing. The majority of the players that have run out of things to do in Destiny have played 150+ hours. This game has been out for less than two months. The reason it is out of content is because we have literally OVERPLAYED it. Speaking from personal experience, I have played nearly 300 hours because this game is amazing. I highly doubt the developers of the game were ready for that.
If you are worried about content running out, maybe slow down a little bit. Even at my 300 hours, I am still having fun. But that's just me.
However, there are very few games that are capable from ripping me away from the real world.
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Stop being such entitled little bitches and either just quit the game or accept that the world isn't free and takes time to make perfect.
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[b]TL;DR[/b] (too long; didn't read)
- It is not free to continue producing content for a game
- A 10 year plan requires a 10 year budget
- The DLC "already in the game" is not finished. If you glitch out to it, you will see it needs considerable work before being ready for play.
- Bungie is contractually bound to release certain content on PSN only (for a year), it's not an option. Thats how contracts work.
- Updates take a considerable amount of time, and if Bungie wants this game to last 10 years, they need 10 years of updates. Be patient.
- If you are out of content already it may be time to go outside, or maybe call one of those friends you forgot you had.
[quote]Well when you think about it, Microsoft has more money than they will probably ever need. But thats no reason for them to start handing out copies of Office for free. The world runs on money, and whether we like it or not, we are part of the world. If the DLC was free, I would love it. But I very seldom get handed free things, so I am not too worried about buying it.
[b]I can spend 20$ for one night downtown that I won't even remember. I would happily spend 20$ for another 100 hours of gameplay that I will love every minute of.[/b][/quote]
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If only this were the only complaint people had. +1
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And to the people defending this kind of bullshit you're on the wrong side of the fence. You're a consumer, and this shit works against consumers AND gamers alike. So really get off the multi multi million dollar studio and publisher's nuts, and realize how naive you sound.
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You have 202 hours in this 'awful awful game'. You, sir, are an idiot.
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So, yes, I'm an idiot and wish I could take back 202 hours of not playing this game.
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Doesn't mean I enjoyed it, or enjoy it anymore.
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So you spent 200 hours playing something you didn't enjoy?... Why? #facepalm
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So you're telling me how I felt and or feel now about the game is wrong? Or is there some other reason you're trying to make me look hypocritical? Told you dude, don't enjoy it, period.
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You clearly saw something in it to put -blam!-ing 200 hours in it, are you just trying to be difficult?
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But... it took you 200 hours to decide that? LMAO, all you kids are the same. You obviously enjoy the game. It's just the trend right now to bitch about it. You'll be on tonight. You know you will
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AS a programmer, and student in school to become a developer, I am aware of the amount of effort that goes into a game like this. You obviously, are not.
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As a student you are young, naive and stupid, welcome to the world kid!
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As a consumer I care about the end result of the product, not the effort. So I can say -blam!- your experience cause this game and business model for it blow.
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Edited by Darling: 10/30/2014 5:38:17 PMActually, most developers build parts of their future DLCs into the base game after they've finished producing the base story in order to make coding and downloading easier. That's why DLCs are only a handful of GB instead of a dozen or more. So not 100% of businesses release incremental DLCs to milk money. Developers have been doing it since around 2010, mate. I don't think you're privy to the manufacturing process for businesses.
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I'm privy to it cause I can see how foolish it was to implement that sort of business model for this game...this awful awful game. And you'll see it too when no one buys this garbage and the game fades from memory cause of it.
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So the 5% player base of whiny kids are leaving? Great! Hopefully it happens sooner than later. This game won't die from a few thousand whiny kids leaving, I guaran-blam!-ingtee you that
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Do you mean Destiny should not have had DLCs at all?
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The pricing, timing, amount of content in original game and DLCs hardly show promise for this game. That model.
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You're in the same boat as I am, with hundreds of hours of gameplay. You burnt out the content yourself, mate.
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Sooooo why are you still here if it's so bad?
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Probably because he feels pissed off he paid so much money on this bag of balls lol
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Your post is very well written and thought out, and I would likely agree with it if it wasn't for the fact that Bungie released an incomplete buggy mess, I mean just look at how many "fixes" they have had to do with just the one raid we have now, if the game at least felt like a complete package I'd be fine with on Disk DLC, but that's not the case and we can't let Bungie nickle and dime us to death, not like this.
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And to the people defending this kind of bullshit you're on the wrong side of the fence. You're a consumer, and this shit works against consumers AND gamers alike. So really get off the multi multi million dollar studio and publisher's nuts, and realize how naive you sound.
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So you say that they cant function on just our 60 dollars. But you fail to realize that they have not even used half of their 500 million dollar budget
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Edited by Hollow: 10/30/2014 5:46:00 PMNo what I am saying is that the value of the game is 60 bucks, just because the company is now worth 500 million doesn't mean it technically makes the game worth any more. That is their revenue from selling a product, they actually are choosing to spend that money on updating and maintaining destiny, learn business before trying to call somebody out. Ie they could spend that money on balloons and a Ferrari cake for their Halloween party(lol South Park reference) tomorrow but they decided destiny was where they would make more money and it could become it's own business much like most all mmorpg, but they need positive feedback to do so, it's rare for a game to excel at release and not need any updates or "hot fixes" especially this genre of gaming...
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Never said the valuebis increased, just saying thay they dont have to rip us off when they have more than enough money