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To the people complaining about the DLC, updates, and bungie in general, let's take a moment to exercise some common sense. [b]DLC?[/b] YES, a good portion of the future DLC is already in the game and is technically accessable by glitching out of the maps. However, if you were to actually do this, you would find that the areas are far from perfectly complete. They are very buggy and contain a whole lot of problems. Sure, Bungie included these places before launch, but have you ever considered that they did it to make it easier down the road for themselves, rather than just to rob you of money? Furthermore, charging for DLC is not a new concept. Nearly every successful game does this. Call of Duty has been doing it for years and NO ONE complains! The only difference is that CoD doesn't put the maps in the game before, because its not a free roam world! So where would they put them?? But that doesn't stop them from charging you every penny they can get for each new map pack. [b]CONTRACTUAL RIGHTS[/b] Upset that you are on Xbox and have to wait a year for stuff that Play Station already has? Well get used to it because there is a contract in place (just like how Xbox had rights to Halo) that says Playstation has the rights! At least it's just a year and not FORVER like halo was. [b]10 YEAR PLAN[/b] If Destiny truly has a 10 year plan for expansions, do you actually believe that they can keep paying their employees for 10 years off of the 60$ we spent to buy the game? No! They would run out of money in no time. Just like any on running massive multiplayer online game, they need to charge a little bit of money in order to keep themselves functioning! To everyone that feels the need to point out that the 10 year plan in fact involves several new titles and additions to the legacy, bear in mind that regardless of how the 10 year plan is carried out, it requires money. This game is Bungie's baby. They want to make it the best game they have ever made. Give them time, be patient, and enjoy the future releases. [b]UPDATES[/b] People are constantly asking for updates for the game. I am sure bungie is listening to you, but what do you want them to do? Reply to 10,000 comments a day saying, "we read your comment and the idea is in consideration"? Do you have any idea how long it takes for developers to consider an idea, bring it before the board, plan the idea, beta test the idea, execute the idea, and finish the -blam!-ing idea? It takes a long -blam!-ing time! They plan on working on this game for 10 years. So expect many, many, many updates during that time. But they can only be done so fast. Developers aren't god. They can't build the world in seven days. So get used to it, or quit the game. If you are patient enough to stick around, expect some pretty cool content coming in the near/far future. [b]TIME[/b] Let's consider one final thing. The majority of the players that have run out of things to do in Destiny have played 150+ hours. This game has been out for less than two months. The reason it is out of content is because we have literally OVERPLAYED it. Speaking from personal experience, I have played nearly 300 hours because this game is amazing. I highly doubt the developers of the game were ready for that. If you are worried about content running out, maybe slow down a little bit. Even at my 300 hours, I am still having fun. But that's just me. However, there are very few games that are capable from ripping me away from the real world. __________________________________________________________________ Stop being such entitled little bitches and either just quit the game or accept that the world isn't free and takes time to make perfect. _____________________________________________________________________ [b]TL;DR[/b] (too long; didn't read) - It is not free to continue producing content for a game - A 10 year plan requires a 10 year budget - The DLC "already in the game" is not finished. If you glitch out to it, you will see it needs considerable work before being ready for play. - Bungie is contractually bound to release certain content on PSN only (for a year), it's not an option. Thats how contracts work. - Updates take a considerable amount of time, and if Bungie wants this game to last 10 years, they need 10 years of updates. Be patient. - If you are out of content already it may be time to go outside, or maybe call one of those friends you forgot you had. [quote]Well when you think about it, Microsoft has more money than they will probably ever need. But thats no reason for them to start handing out copies of Office for free. The world runs on money, and whether we like it or not, we are part of the world. If the DLC was free, I would love it. But I very seldom get handed free things, so I am not too worried about buying it. [b]I can spend 20$ for one night downtown that I won't even remember. I would happily spend 20$ for another 100 hours of gameplay that I will love every minute of.[/b][/quote]
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  • Corporations exist because individuals choose to invest their money in order to get a return on that money. There is no "more than enough" return on that investment. In fact, the better the return, the more capital will be attracted and the larger the production budget for games. I hope they exceed their anticipated profit by 2 or 3 times. Our gaming experience will be better for it.

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  • Edited by Adam: 10/30/2014 5:24:48 PM
    I kinda wish there were a monthly fee so that we could see quality updates, more content, better servers, quicker patches and fixes, more raids etc. Any content and changes we do get to Destiny will be very slight, and the events will just be more recycled stuff as it is. I'm gonna buy the Dlc and play the hell out of it. I'm as disappointed as anyone about the amount of content, but why don't we all jump off the 'I hate Bungie' bandwagon?

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  • I agree with this. I used to play Runescape, (insert facepalm here) and the way that they charged for memberships allowed the game to constantly be updated and improved upon (until the ultimately improved it so much that they ruined it, but that is beside the point).

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  • Exactly what I mean.... People are expecting MMO standards of content and updates when they're paying a fraction of the price. It's never gonna happen.

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  • quit saying the 10 year plan this and that. This game has a 10 year plan as a franchise. Not DLC in the making.

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  • You are missing the point. Sure, they are going to make more games, but regardless of what they do it requires money. Nothing is free. Everything has an opportunity cost.

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  • I don't think you're wrong, but what I'm disappointed with is price conversion.

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  • Stop defending sellouts brown nose

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  • I am not defending, I am facing facts. You either play the game or don't. You can either complain, or accept what you have been given. But ultimately we all end up at the same place.

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  • Exactly, so accept we have been fukd. Your "humble" buzzkill opinion doesn't separate you as a higher wisdom. Your just brown nosing and not in acceptance yourself guy

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  • Look at it how you want. I choose the less annoying route.

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  • http://youtu.be/UZ5BpeHVTWY

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  • [quote]To the people complaining about the DLC, updates, and bungie in general, let's take a moment to exercise some common sense. [b]DLC?[/b] YES, a good portion of the future DLC is already in the game and is technically accessable by glitching out of the maps. However, if you were to actually do this, you would find that the areas are far from perfectly complete. They are very buggy and contain a whole lot of problems. Sure, Bungie included these places before launch, but have you ever considered that they did it to make it easier down the road for themselves, rather than just to rob you of money? Furthermore, charging for DLC is not a new concept. Nearly every successful game does this. Call of Duty has been doing it for years and NO ONE complains! The only difference is that CoD doesn't put the maps in the game before, because its not a free roam world! So where would they put them?? But that doesn't stop them from charging you every penny they can get for each new map pack. [b]CONTRACTUAL RIGHTS[/b] Upset that you are on Xbox and have to wait a year for stuff that Play Station already has? Well get used to it because there is a contract in place (just like how Xbox had rights to Halo) that says Playstation has the rights! At least it's just a year and not FORVER like halo was. [b]10 YEAR PLAN[/b] If Destiny truly has a 10 year plan for expansions, do you actually believe that they can keep paying their employees for 10 years off of the 60$ we spent to buy the game? No! They would run out of money in no time. Just like any on running massive multiplayer online game, they need to charge a little bit of money in order to keep themselves functioning! [b]UPDATES[/b] People are constantly asking for updates for the game. I am sure bungie is listening to you, but what do you want them to do? Reply to 10,000 comments a day saying, "we read your comment and the idea is in consideration"? Do you have any idea how long it takes for developers to consider an idea, bring it before the board, plan the idea, beta test the idea, execute the idea, and finish the -blam!-ing idea? It takes a long -blam!-ing time! They plan on working on this game for 10 years. So expect many, many, many updates during that time. But they can only be done so fast. Developers aren't god. They can't build the world in seven days. So get used to it, or quit the game. If you are patient enough to stick around, expect some pretty cool content coming in the near/far future. __________________________________________________________________ Stop being such entitled little bitches and either just quit the game or accept that the world isn't free and takes time to make perfect. _____________________________________________________________________ [b]TL;DR[/b] (too long; didn't read) - It is not free to continue producing content for a game - A 10 year plan requires a 10 year budget - The DLC "already in the game" is not finished. If you glitch out to it, you will see it needs considerable work before being ready for play. - Bungie is contractually bound to release certain content on PSN only (for a year), it's not an option. Thats how contracts work. - Updates take a considerable amount of time, and if Bungie wants this game to last 10 years, they need 10 years of updates. Be patient. [quote]Well when you think about it, Microsoft has more money than they will probably ever need. But thats no reason for them to start handing out copies of Office for free. The world runs on money, and whether we like it or not, we are part of the world. If the DLC was free, I would love it. But I very seldom get handed free things, so I am not too worried about buying it. [b]I can spend 20$ for one night downtown that I won't even remember. I would happily spend 20$ for another 100 hours of gameplay that I will love every minute of.[/b][/quote][/quote] Beautifully said!!!

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    [quote][quote]To the people complaining about the DLC, updates, and bungie in general, let's take a moment to exercise some common sense. [b]DLC?[/b] YES, a good portion of the future DLC is already in the game and is technically accessable by glitching out of the maps. However, if you were to actually do this, you would find that the areas are far from perfectly complete. They are very buggy and contain a whole lot of problems. Sure, Bungie included these places before launch, but have you ever considered that they did it to make it easier down the road for themselves, rather than just to rob you of money? Furthermore, charging for DLC is not a new concept. Nearly every successful game does this. Call of Duty has been doing it for years and NO ONE complains! The only difference is that CoD doesn't put the maps in the game before, because its not a free roam world! So where would they put them?? But that doesn't stop them from charging you every penny they can get for each new map pack. [b]CONTRACTUAL RIGHTS[/b] Upset that you are on Xbox and have to wait a year for stuff that Play Station already has? Well get used to it because there is a contract in place (just like how Xbox had rights to Halo) that says Playstation has the rights! At least it's just a year and not FORVER like halo was. [b]10 YEAR PLAN[/b] If Destiny truly has a 10 year plan for expansions, do you actually believe that they can keep paying their employees for 10 years off of the 60$ we spent to buy the game? No! They would run out of money in no time. Just like any on running massive multiplayer online game, they need to charge a little bit of money in order to keep themselves functioning! [b]UPDATES[/b] People are constantly asking for updates for the game. I am sure bungie is listening to you, but what do you want them to do? Reply to 10,000 comments a day saying, "we read your comment and the idea is in consideration"? Do you have any idea how long it takes for developers to consider an idea, bring it before the board, plan the idea, beta test the idea, execute the idea, and finish the -blam!-ing idea? It takes a long -blam!-ing time! They plan on working on this game for 10 years. So expect many, many, many updates during that time. But they can only be done so fast. Developers aren't god. They can't build the world in seven days. So get used to it, or quit the game. If you are patient enough to stick around, expect some pretty cool content coming in the near/far future. __________________________________________________________________ Stop being such entitled little bitches and either just quit the game or accept that the world isn't free and takes time to make perfect. _____________________________________________________________________ [b]TL;DR[/b] (too long; didn't read) - It is not free to continue producing content for a game - A 10 year plan requires a 10 year budget - The DLC "already in the game" is not finished. If you glitch out to it, you will see it needs considerable work before being ready for play. - Bungie is contractually bound to release certain content on PSN only (for a year), it's not an option. Thats how contracts work. - Updates take a considerable amount of time, and if Bungie wants this game to last 10 years, they need 10 years of updates. Be patient. [quote]Well when you think about it, Microsoft has more money than they will probably ever need. But thats no reason for them to start handing out copies of Office for free. The world runs on money, and whether we like it or not, we are part of the world. If the DLC was free, I would love it. But I very seldom get handed free things, so I am not too worried about buying it. [b]I can spend 20$ for one night downtown that I won't even remember. I would happily spend 20$ for another 100 hours of gameplay that I will love every minute of.[/b][/quote][/quote] Beautifully said!!![/quote] I agree amazin

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  • Ahh, nice to read your post. I agree. A+ for you :)

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  • Well said

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  • [quote] ... [b]CONTRACTUAL RIGHTS[/b] Upset that you are on Xbox and have to wait a year for stuff that Play Station already has? Well get used to it because there is a contract in place (just like how Xbox had rights to Halo) that says Playstation has the rights! At least it's just a year and not FORVER like halo was... [/quote] Stopped reading here. I am pretty sure the Xbox player's frustration is justified. Go pound sand.

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    [quote][quote] ... [b]CONTRACTUAL RIGHTS[/b] Upset that you are on Xbox and have to wait a year for stuff that Play Station already has? Well get used to it because there is a contract in place (just like how Xbox had rights to Halo) that says Playstation has the rights! At least it's just a year and not FORVER like halo was... [/quote] Stopped reading here. I am pretty sure the Xbox player's frustration is justified. Go pound sand.[/quote] I play Xbox and I don't care about this there is nothing that can be done about the contract for a year and I still love the game.

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  • Im an xbox player, it sucks not getting the content now. Oh well, just more content next year. We cant choose to always get our way unfortunately, but we can choose how we react.

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  • I am an Xbox user. I am very frustrated. But the only options available are to cry to Bungie saying it's not fair, or accept the fact that they have no choice in the matter. Contracts are legally binding.

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  • Now you know how PS users felt for 8 years on Call of Duty now

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  • [quote]I am an Xbox user. I am very frustrated. But the only options available are to cry to Bungie saying it's not fair, or accept the fact that they have no choice in the matter. Contracts are legally binding.[/quote] Why should a resolution EVER be to sit around and accept anything, realistically, unjust? If you don't vote you don't have a voice. If you accept the fact Xbox users will wait a year, and this upsets you, then you have given up your voice. This contract may not change but don't be apathetic like the 40% of non-voters in America.

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  • And also 4 or so years before destiny came out that bungie didn't make any games. Even is you fig a avg employee make 30k and there is 100 or so employees.

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    [quote]And also 4 or so years before destiny came out that bungie didn't make any games. Even is you fig a avg employee make 30k and there is 100 or so employees.[/quote] 500 I think.

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  • Oh wow didn't realize bungie was that big

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