To the people complaining about the DLC, updates, and bungie in general, let's take a moment to exercise some common sense.
[b]DLC?[/b]
YES, a good portion of the future DLC is already in the game and is technically accessable by glitching out of the maps. However, if you were to actually do this, you would find that the areas are far from perfectly complete. They are very buggy and contain a whole lot of problems. Sure, Bungie included these places before launch, but have you ever considered that they did it to make it easier down the road for themselves, rather than just to rob you of money?
Furthermore, charging for DLC is not a new concept. Nearly every successful game does this. Call of Duty has been doing it for years and NO ONE complains! The only difference is that CoD doesn't put the maps in the game before, because its not a free roam world! So where would they put them?? But that doesn't stop them from charging you every penny they can get for each new map pack.
[b]CONTRACTUAL RIGHTS[/b]
Upset that you are on Xbox and have to wait a year for stuff that Play Station already has? Well get used to it because there is a contract in place (just like how Xbox had rights to Halo) that says Playstation has the rights! At least it's just a year and not FORVER like halo was.
[b]10 YEAR PLAN[/b]
If Destiny truly has a 10 year plan for expansions, do you actually believe that they can keep paying their employees for 10 years off of the 60$ we spent to buy the game? No! They would run out of money in no time. Just like any on running massive multiplayer online game, they need to charge a little bit of money in order to keep themselves functioning!
To everyone that feels the need to point out that the 10 year plan in fact involves several new titles and additions to the legacy, bear in mind that regardless of how the 10 year plan is carried out, it requires money. This game is Bungie's baby. They want to make it the best game they have ever made. Give them time, be patient, and enjoy the future releases.
[b]UPDATES[/b]
People are constantly asking for updates for the game. I am sure bungie is listening to you, but what do you want them to do? Reply to 10,000 comments a day saying, "we read your comment and the idea is in consideration"? Do you have any idea how long it takes for developers to consider an idea, bring it before the board, plan the idea, beta test the idea, execute the idea, and finish the -blam!-ing idea? It takes a long -blam!-ing time! They plan on working on this game for 10 years. So expect many, many, many updates during that time. But they can only be done so fast. Developers aren't god. They can't build the world in seven days. So get used to it, or quit the game.
If you are patient enough to stick around, expect some pretty cool content coming in the near/far future.
[b]TIME[/b]
Let's consider one final thing. The majority of the players that have run out of things to do in Destiny have played 150+ hours. This game has been out for less than two months. The reason it is out of content is because we have literally OVERPLAYED it. Speaking from personal experience, I have played nearly 300 hours because this game is amazing. I highly doubt the developers of the game were ready for that.
If you are worried about content running out, maybe slow down a little bit. Even at my 300 hours, I am still having fun. But that's just me.
However, there are very few games that are capable from ripping me away from the real world.
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Stop being such entitled little bitches and either just quit the game or accept that the world isn't free and takes time to make perfect.
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[b]TL;DR[/b] (too long; didn't read)
- It is not free to continue producing content for a game
- A 10 year plan requires a 10 year budget
- The DLC "already in the game" is not finished. If you glitch out to it, you will see it needs considerable work before being ready for play.
- Bungie is contractually bound to release certain content on PSN only (for a year), it's not an option. Thats how contracts work.
- Updates take a considerable amount of time, and if Bungie wants this game to last 10 years, they need 10 years of updates. Be patient.
- If you are out of content already it may be time to go outside, or maybe call one of those friends you forgot you had.
[quote]Well when you think about it, Microsoft has more money than they will probably ever need. But thats no reason for them to start handing out copies of Office for free. The world runs on money, and whether we like it or not, we are part of the world. If the DLC was free, I would love it. But I very seldom get handed free things, so I am not too worried about buying it.
[b]I can spend 20$ for one night downtown that I won't even remember. I would happily spend 20$ for another 100 hours of gameplay that I will love every minute of.[/b][/quote]
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The game is stupid and if you think people are going to continue to play a -blam!-ed game and have to pay lol no this game should be under the genre indie games
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Sigh. Another misinformed post about Halo and exclusivity. Bungie WAS a first party developer for Microsoft. What that means, for any first party developer, is that they are developing games for a singular console. In Halo's case it was for the Xbox. Playstation had games like Killzone and God of War. First party developers. You will never see first party developer's games on the opposite console! Bungie is NOW a [i]third party developer.[/i] Meaning, they produce MULTI-PLATFORM games. This is where people are getting pissed off about this. It's multiplatform, Sony has gotten year long exclusivity AND gets additional content. That means that for 1 year Xbox owners get to pay exactly the same price as people on Playstation and [i]receive less content for the exact same amount of money.[/i] For a year! That is bullshit in the extreme. Normal timed exclusivity deals, like the ones for CoD Dlc last ONE month and [i]do not give one console more than the other. Everyone gets exactly the same thing.[/i] With this B.S. deal, one can bet dollars to donuts at the end of the 1 year exclusivity deal, Activision will have the stones to turn around and slap micro-transactions on the additional content Playstation got first. Anyone wanna bet that doesn't happen? It will.
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In the end the jokes really on the Xbox users, this game won't make it a year at this rate.
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I'd say the joke's on Bungie and Activision. If they are expecting the Xbox player base to just sit there and take it for a year, then turn around and buy what they already paid for? Nope. Not going to happen, except for a few people with more disposable income than brains. Heaven knows at the end of the one year exclusivity deal I will not be getting the strikes, PvP maps etc that were hacked out of the DLC's for Sony's exclusivity. It won't matter at that point, Destiny won't be relevant AND, as a matter of principle, I object to this type of B.S. exclusivity where one pays the same to get less as another console.
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Agreed. I am not raging it's just after all the build up, and the most money spent on game development in history, it seems like a let down. I've spent many hours grinding to get to the raid ready level and that was fun. It is clear however the focus here is pvp. Which I suck at, and if I wanted that I'd play some BF4. I think 60-80% of current players bought this for the pve and that's why we are seeing 100+ hours of time and people are unhappy. We are trained to grind for the payoff and there is none in destiny, it's all rng, and searching for fire teams on reddit or some other platform. Game mechanics are awesome and if that was all they set out to do then this game is above and beyond expectations. But I bought a game with a story and it feels like someone took an amazing game and diced it up for sale latter.
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This is my biggest issue, and why everyone on my friends list is moving on to greener pastures. Exactly what you said... This third party game was released to everyone!!! Everyone knows microsoft is an exclusivity whore and loves to get their own stuff in dlcs etc. BUT It's usually a shader, or maybe a gun or something! But if half of the dlc isn't being released for xbox... Then shouldn't it be half the price? Hell... Charge me the other half in a year maybe... But don't make me pay the exact same amount to get half of the material! Thats insane.... I could have even dealt with a first month exclusive, where xbox didn't get anything for 30 days or something, but a year?!? ....whaaaaaa? Never in game history has such a huge part of a game been exclusive for longer than people will even be interested in a game. There are so many good games coming out in the upcoming year that are going to steal destiny's player base. I love destiny... Didn't care about all the nerfs, or even vault changes. It's a growing game, and i'm patient. But everyone has been waiting for the DLC.... That was gonna be what held everyone together in playing that little bit longer till they released something else to grab our attention down the road. But, any hopes of expecting a great dlc to change things got crushed by paying $20 for $10 worth of material just to figure out we were only getting $5 worth of actual game. Destiny doesn't have enough in game material to hold back so much for some idiotic contract! Dumb dumb dumb
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We can only hope Bungie learned their lesson. I expect that they will learn that lesson, painfully, when the DLC sales figures come out and it's not selling to hot on the Xbox platforms. Perhaps for Destiny 2, Bungie will not allow Cracktivision (and Bobby Coddik) to make some completely bogus, exclusionary and morally reprehensible exclusivity deal that screws over a large portion of their player base.
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Such a shame that the peopl who need to read this wont because they dont have the balls to admit they were wrong.
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Your addressing situations that aren't relevant what everyone in these forums are asking for is a simple explanation your offering logical theories while everyone else is offering structured criticism
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Agreed, only place i dissagree is the exclusivity on dlc. a year is a crazy amount of time, and yes i only payed to launch game price so far, but destiny over the 10 years is going to release at least 3 games and 6 dlcs, possibly more, so thats where they will keep paying their folks with. also lets not forget the enormous sum they got from Microsoft for selling all the rights they had for halo. i want desinty to last 10 years, even with all this stuff going on, but i honestly fear its longevity, we will see when it has contending games on the next gen consoles over the holidays
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Well when you think about it, Microsoft has more money than they will probably ever need. But thats no reason for them to start handing out copies of Office for free. The world runs on money, and whether we like it or not, we are part of the world. If the DLC was free, I would love it. But I very seldom get handed free things, so I am not too worried about buying it. [b]I can spend 20$ for one night downtown that I won't even remember. I would happily spend 20$ for another 100 hours of gameplay that I will love every minute of.[/b]
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Totally true and still agree. But $20 for all of the content on ps4 And $20 for most of it and a down payment to get the rest in a year for the xbone. I'm fine with ps having more content really. I just don't like paying the same price with the promise of that content a year from now.
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I'm not so much saying. GUVE ME THE CONTENT NOW!!! I'm trying to say, sure let the ps have it. They paid for the rights, but like maybe $18? Coming from a consumer point of view, it just makes it more difficult to pay the same price for less. I'm amazed this console war stuff is still going on
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Actually read this entire post. Love it.
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