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Edited by Dead2me82: 10/31/2014 12:45:24 AM
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Edit: Before you read, please note that this is not a comparison of games, but a comparison of $/content value. TO ALL THE HATERS: Most of us come from a FPS background in either COD, Battlefield, or Halo. And it seems there is a lot of us on here slamming Bungie, but can we please BACK THE CRAZY TRAIN UP?!!! [u] I, myself, have been a COD person, so I'm going to speak specifically from that point of view[/u] Let's look at the facts before drawing some conclusions: 1. Call of Duty games launch with around 10-11 multiplayer maps, then charges a fee for DLC (usually around $15) that includes around five more maps. There are four of these DLCs in a "season". This DLC has no other content then those five maps and then maybe a new weapon - Destiny launched with 11 multiplayer maps and the first DLC will introduce 3 more maps to the Crucible 2. Call of Duty games generally have an entertaining campaign mode that takes about 6 hours to complete. You are solo on this campaign. - Destiny launched with a "campaign" mode that takes at least twice as long as a Call of Duty campaign, and can be played with up to two other friends if you want. You can always play it solo if you choose. These campaigns do repeatedly start you in the same world over and over again, but take you through different parts of that world to defeat different bosses. 3. Call of Duty puts in tons of micro transactions for character customizations, voice commentators, weapon skins, etc. that you pay real money to access - SO FAR, Destiny doesn't make you pay any more for such customizations. There are tons of options already available. 4. Call of Duty's DLC includes only 5 multiplayer maps and maybe a gun for $15 - Destiny's DLC includes 3 multiplayer maps, a host of new weapons and armors, new drop items, a new raid, new missions and strikes, new shaders and it costs only $5 more. So, let's add all this up: CALL OF DUTY - For a $60 game, and $40 of DLC ($60 if you don't buy the season pass) I get: - Around 30 multiplayer maps, a 6hr campaign, some other kind of co-op mode that usually few people touch, a couple of added weapons, a number of looks (though your armor/camo/ghillie suit play no role in actually preventing damage), and that about sums it up DESTINY - $60 game, $35 for DLC ($40 if you don't buy expansion pass): NOTE - I'm going to estimate based on what we know of The Dark Below and apply it to the House of Wolves DLC - 16 Crucible maps, an estimated 24-30hr campaign that can be played solo or with a small team, about 12-15 new weapons, 8-10 new armors (that actually do something besides aesthetics), three 6-player co-op Raid missions, multiple in-game currencies, a grimoire packed with story content (albeit very few people read, but it's more than COD has going for it), and that about sums it up. My question is this; WHAT DO YOU PEOPLE WANT???? Destiny offers so much more content then Call of Duty or Battlefield, or even any of the Halo games. You may not like the story as much (agreed, it was extremely lacking), but there is a ton in this game, the gameplay is tight, and for less money then what I pay in a year on Call of Duty I feel like I'm getting more content. I'm on Playstation, so an Xbox user may feel differently, but let's admit that for a new IP, this game has a ton going on. CAN I GET A WITNESS?!
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  • Destiny might have more content in terms of environments but for the story there isnt much of one. All you are doing is fighting through a bunch of enemies to kill a boss or scan something, same everytime just different environment. COD games usually have a pretty decent story which is my favorite part of a game. In terms of PVP destiny's isnt really fun since it is extremely unbalanced which is understandable since balancing damage between PVE and PVP is hard, I just dont like getting one shot everytime I walk through a door. The only thing I even get on to do anymore each week is to do the raid with my clan which is now starting to get boring. The combat is just not challenging enough (but Im a dark souls fan so that might just be me ) so it feels like im just walking through the enemies one shotting them with my hand cannon. Both COD and Destiny are bland and boring games unless you make them fun by playing with friends, so it is a bad comparison. Hope bungie does something to make this game fun again. MY OPINION

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  • after MW2 the story blows. its became multiplayer oriented , they didnt care for the story just wipped something to prepare you for multiplayer

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  • Yeah the original Modern Warfare's story I thought was pretty good and then slowly declined. And Destiny just doesn't have story which sucks because the master chief storyline was great, just wished for more from this game

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  • Like you said your a cod player. The problem comes in that this isn't just a fps, it's a fps-rpg. From the RPG side of the argument it isn't quite as balanced against other rpg's. Which is why ppl are complaining. But don't get my wrong I like the game. It's just short and repetitive compared with other RPGs.

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  • It's not a RPG

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  • No it isn't, however it isn't just a fps either. Nor is it a mmo. It is a fps-rpg because it is a hybrid of both. So just comparing it to just Cod is like comparing apples to oranges. The closest thing you could compare it to would be ID soft's rage which came with a much more involved story. But that game fell flat on the PvP side.

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  • No it's not, nor is it an fps. It's a fps-rpg...

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  • No its not nor is it a fps. Its a fpsrpg...

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  • It really isn't

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  • Edited by xcrazyxphazex: 10/30/2014 7:28:37 PM
    klethe, it is a rpg. role playing game. no less a rpg than world of warcraft. you are under the mistaken assumption that a fps can't be an rpg. take your fanboy head out of the sand.

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  • Ask bungie, than come back.

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  • ^This.

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  • Completely agree, loving this game atm. Can't wait for December to try some new stuff, can't believe people hate it

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  • Edited by SmanM: 10/30/2014 7:39:52 PM
    If it had the content they wiped from the Alpha and everything they hyped was actually incorporated in the game I think it would be much more unbelievable to hate the game. As it stands the hate that Destiny, DeeJ and ultimately Bungie/Activision is receiving is completely justifiable. The game is a husk of what it was in the Alpha, because at that time the story was still there, among other things Bungie scrapped including character customization, factions, faction backgrounds, the lore of the game, all the extra elements that would have alleviated the insanity and intensity of the RNG they setup. I agree. Really unbelievable how anyone could hate Destiny and Bungie/Activision for all of that, yet not stating that when the information was vital to the games overall reception and sales projection. Cause they had no incentive to cover that up until people began to get pissed and started digging through the closet to find the skeletons they hid.

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  • After Modern Warfare COD Sucked Black Ops Is Ok

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  • Once Black ops hit I got sucked into zombie mode. Multiplayer became my back up ;)

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  • Amen

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  • Edited by COLDasICE MEDIC: 10/30/2014 7:04:36 PM
    great on the comparison. destiny has a lot of absolutely wonderful parts. ill guestimate that 90% of complaints are whiney 10yr olds not being constructive. there are a lot of other legitimate counterpoints. i love gaming, cod, halo, borderlands, smash bros, zelda, all systems any genre any era. i didnt follow the hype ip for destiny. but it was the second game ive played through and was all wtf about it, the first being mass effect 3. the story is delivered in a way i enjoyed, for the tiny disconnected and vague parts we got. theres a ton of legit gripes. why is there no ranking in pvp? why so little selection of replayability events? volume controls or chat? very few armor/ weapons to choose between on high end levels. dont get me wrong at 375 hours in, i could love this game forever. but some nuances need to be at least addressed, if not fixed. destiny could be the only game mentioned for years to come. but i think it will be dead by spring, and i hope im wrong on that. it should take my potato of a brain months to bored of any game, not month 2. example being gundam wing dynasty warriors, yeah i know, but if a weird hobbled together button masher can occupy my simple mind, then bungie shouldnt have a problem.

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  • Edited by SmanM: 10/30/2014 7:55:17 PM
    The game will be dead by winters end and a memory by spring. The kids are the majority of the ones who love the game, the adults think it's a pile of garbage by comparison to what it was going to be, but was changed after the Alpha. You're 90% marginal guesstimation is far off the mark though depending on what complaints you're referencing.

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  • I'll be your witness! I love this game. I'm so glad other people do too. I sooo want the shark rocket launcher I saw in the picture for this expansion! I'm still having so much fun with this game. The expansion will make it so much cooler. And now for my stupid ideas. I apologize ahead of time for how stupid they are. Sorry! I want there to be a shooting range in the tower to test out new guns before you buy them or just to show off to your friends on how good you are! Also a place to race your sparrow like a track or something. Against your friends or other people. And my last and best idea is to have a place I go to buy regular clothes for my character so I can run around the tower in style not just in my armor! And this one is from my boyfriend. He wants a place along the wall that you have to go defend from the fallen. All of the guardians. Like they break through or something. Thanks for reading my comment!

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  • Sparrow racing was actually rumored to have been a potential element of the game Bungie more than likely scrapped and kept the damn sparrows anyways, but stupidly left the stat differential, rather than having different colored sparrows with identical stats.

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  • Survival tower event, where all you have to do is press triangle or whatever to drop in on the wall and pretty much play a scene from attack on titan or world war z? I'm down

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  • Ummm destiny isn't COD... So why are you comparing the two? Both are completely different games besides the fact they share an FPS aspect

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  • You aren't seeing the point that he is makeing with the peoples complaints of the game.

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